Bye Agar !!!!!!!!!!!

If you recall, we won the first 5 games of this season.
10 would be the minimum for me but that could ruin another season as it will be impossible to finish top 4, which is a minimum for a good crack at old trafford. The only thing in his favour for me is his recruitment, retention and the players going.

Totally agree with that, it will be very interesting to see how it pans out, hopefully we will be in for a very pleasant surprise.

We will have more quality in the squad and hopefully better luck with injuries.

However, there is no evidence to suggest we will have a detailed gameplan for each game, nor that Agar will get every player playing to their full potential, nor that he will deliver a team whose quality exceeds the sum of its parts. A great example of this was the post match press conference vs Quins where he said something like "We didn't give them too much - just said to them "If you see it, play it"." If I were head coach of what should be a top 4 club, I'd expect to be providing a bit more insight, leadership and direction than something that sounds like a Roy Walker catchphrase. Although having said that, it was more effective than the previous 4 months worth of preparation.

we sure could be

Give the guy a chance for next year.If he doesnt cut it then get rid after 5 games or so. Or give him the name of Justines dealer so he can at least remain HIGH!!

We'll have another wasted season with the muppet in charge.

Hull will improve next year with a much tougher and more committed pack of forwards and a medal laden half back. Whether Agar survives the season is another matter.

Just about sums it up for me, after seeing the team since Agar took control I have seen little if anything to suggest things will change greatly under his stewardship (can't say leadership as I honestly don't believe there is any from him) apart from the players brought in.

I hope he does indeed prove many of us wrong but sadly feel he will not. He should have been gone this season, for many reasons, waiting again next season will just be another wasted season.

The first two games should tel us if he has learnt anything from his mistakes this season and found out what a diffence a game plan and tactics would make to a game.

For me he failed in just about every aspect and seems out of his depth, like I say its up to him to prove us wrong and nothing but a strong positive and convincing start will be acceptable.

I agree

And i can't believe how many people have seemingly had their attitudes totally changed by a win against a Quins side who are in dire form.

I think the players we have got in will improve the side, maybe as much as to regain a playoff place...but with a poor coach we will never challenge for honours, no matter who we have on the pitch (Warrington in the last days of Cullen and Lowes are proof of that) and Agar has done nothing to convince me otherwise.

the Bradford game is a huge game for his future IMO, a convincing display and we end the season on some form of optimism, another crap display and it'll be a long winter of moaning.

Quite an astute obsvervation that perhaps he would be a better director of Rugby?

Where are all the deleted posts?

Don't see how a meaningless game against a team who are as bad as us with an equally poor coach can show us anything. If we can beat (or match) Wigan then i'll consider that a glimmer of hope.

In post heaven.