We threw everything at Leeds and still only went in 12 nil up at halftime.
That is nothing against a team like Leeds.
The best we can hope for this season is 4th from bottom.
Until Pearson wakes up to the fact that Radford is not up to it , he may as well set fire to his money !!

Doh, my error. I meant 9th/10th.

Just seen the league table after all games have been played from round 4 - The thread title sums it up completely. Hudds will improve, Cas have a better coach, Salford better players, Rovers better players. Just where is the next win going to come from. Hull FC are a shambles

Back to your usual positive self. The "better players" of the dobbins remain below Hull and there are only 4 teams that are better than 1 win ahead of Hull. If Hudds can improve why can't Hull? A terrible second half in the last game without a doubt but not exactly wrist slashing time yet. How they bounce back on Friday will be a better indication, I'm not expecting a win, even though Wigan have been wobbling of late, but a performance of character after the surrender against Leeds will do.

Couldn't agree more erik

Hudds previous league position under Anderson says they will improve. Rovers were always going to start slowly due to the amount of new players yet already theyre giving every team a game - Once they gel theyll go well. Where do you see the improvement coming from from FC may i ask?

Apart from the sde who are the bookies favourites to finish bottom.

So you're saying every team has improvement in them apart from us, who peaked for 2015 in Round 1?

loL - WELL SAID !

some keyboard warriors just like to moan with every post they make

Warriors - parasites
Potayto - potahto

It's just the beginning of the season for crying out loud. Why are people trying to write us off already when we have only played 4 games which were all quite difficult games anyway. Give it time and see what happens, yes the Leeds result was extremely poor but remember how promising the first half was, as long as we can get some level of consistency, we should be able to do really well.

To me, that epitomises our problems. We regularly turn in poor performances, but as long as there is a temporary response the week after, for many all is forgiven again until the next shocker. We need to start playing close to our potential most weeks and not be happy until that happens, not sit and watch dross and think that as long as we turn up next week to show that they're all sorry 'that'll do'. That seems to be a good chunk of the players' approach.

Please don't think I'm that easily pleased and bought off. Perhaps I should have reworded it that the second half effort against Leeds definitely won't do. For all Wigan's woes I think its a bit optimistic or arrogant to assume that a top effort will automatically beat them.

Oh, I don't think we'll beat them. What I was meaning was that 1 performance of character next time out will not do. We've seen that we can bounce back for odd games, what we need is to see performances of character most weeks, so that we aren't having to bounce back so often.

wigan have been woeful though. Snuck past a huddersfield side we beat the previous week, thrown away winning leads against rovers and widnes and dry humped by cas last Friday. Having said that, a home game against Hull is just what they need to get back on track. Long night for us I expect