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| Quote: Kosh "A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?
Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position. Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.'" Yeaman was courted by Leeds before he re-signed.
Though i do think that his argument is flawed somewhat, given G. Horne has ended up at Hudds.
But Craig Hall is NOT good enough.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Yeaman was courted by Leeds before he re-signed.'"
Seems unlikely.
Quote: east hull FC fan "But Craig Hall is NOT good enough.'"
In your opinion.
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| Quote: Kosh "In your opinion.'" If he was, he'd be playing. It really is that simlple Kosh.
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| Quote: Kosh "A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?'"
It obviously stands to reason that a club wouldn't recruit ANY player unless they had a need to. Doesn't it? It's a salary cap sport and I don't suppose many clubs go around signing players they don't need - however good they are.
If a top 6 club needed a prop (for example), they would be very interested in O'Meley. If a top 6 club needed a centre, I sincerely doubt they would have any interest in signing Hall.
Quote: Kosh "Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position.'"
Whiting would be an asset to any club. His position would be that he could play anywhere from 1-13 to quite a high standard. In the modern game, with cap limitations and whatnot, that's an excellent quality to have.
Yeaman we'll have to disagree on. If he got the sort of service Wigan's threequarters get, I don't think he'd look out of place in their side (or any other).
Quote: Kosh " Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.'"
Agreed. Someone might take a punt on Berrigan because he has been a great player in the past and a fresh start can sometimes bring about a resurgence in form. Lauaki (and possibly Moa) might attract some interest depending on who else was available.
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "That's the point entirely. Of course he's capable of doing good things, but he's not consistent enough to make it at this level.
Surely you don't believe this. He was promising as a youngster, but didn't progress as well as his early promise suggested he might. It happens. A lot.
Of course. Goes without saying!'"
didnt his points in today win and against salford,when we looked like we could have struggled like last week,,,pull your boots on boy lets see your metal,,theres lots of people on here who talk a good job and do fe*ck all,,
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "How do you know it happens to us more than others? Do you keep abreast of every prospect coming through every club? I think you'll find it just seems like it happens to us more because you notice it more when it's our club.
He's not a scapegoat. Really, he isn't. He's just not as good overall as most (if not all) of the other first team players. If he set the world alight in the games he did play, he wouldn't get dropped.
I think a useful measure of how good a player he is would be the number of clubs interested in him should he become available, and, more importantly, their league positions. Do you seriously think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire or Hudds would want him?'"
if he's so terribly bad the club would have ditched him long before this season, i can see PROPER professionals coaches not arm chair ones know he's got natural tallent that can't be coached or taught thats why he is still there and not you..
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Really? An English centre who can't get in to a Hull FC team with injuries?'"
didnt you notice he was in today and won the game donought
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| Quote: fc baldy "I would like to know how many he has had in 1 go in the cntres.........Houghton is a daft option as he is a bloody hooker and has had to come in and has had only 1 person to vie with and in this game now you use 2 hookers anyway.
Whiting is a 100% and can cover a variety of roles......you have made it clear you dont like Hall....i personally think he is the best attacking centre at the club and yes his defence is dodgy.......i will personally take the word of a ex Widnes player who played with Hall last season over a accountant who only rates someone if he has nice legs and booty.'"
well said that man it made me laugh out loud,,
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| Quote: bigcjlchris "didnt his points in today win and against salford,when we looked like we could have struggled like last week,,,pull your boots on boy lets see your metal,,theres lots of people on here who talk a good job and do fe*ck all,,'"
Good heavens. Your illiterate ranting in defence of your mate is incredibly tiresome. These boards would be quite empty if only those who had played professional RL were allowed to give an opinion about a player.
Quote: bigcjlchris "if he's so terribly bad the club would have ditched him long before this season, '"
Before you get all upset again, you should read the post where I said he's not a bad player. I just don't think he's good enough for this level - it's really not something you need to get so hot under the collar about.
Quote: bigcjlchris "i can see PROPER professionals coaches not arm chair ones know he's got natural tallent that can't be coached or taught thats why he is still there and not you..'"
So if Hull get rid, you'll accept that he's not good enough? If the 'PROPER' coaches no longer want him, you'll agree that they know more than an armchair coach like yourself? Or does it only work one way?
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| Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "Good heavens. Your illiterate ranting in defence of your mate is incredibly tiresome. These boards would be quite empty if only those who had played professional RL were allowed to give an opinion about a player.
Before you get all upset again, you should read the post where I said he's not a bad player. I just don't think he's good enough for this level - it's really not something you need to get so hot under the collar about.
So if Hull get rid, you'll accept that he's not good enough? If the 'PROPER' coaches no longer want him, you'll agree that they know more than an armchair coach like yourself? Or does it only work one way?'"
illiterate?? of my mate?? i'd be more than happy to discuss this in person and we will soon see who's illiterate,if hull get rid that does'nt mean he's not good enough he would'nt be the first player of any sport to be ditched just because the coach did'nt like him,my WHOLE FAMILY PLAY SUPER LEAGUE boyo we have been involved since day one of SL,,i'm not even going to waste my time with you,,
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| Dear me ,If Yeaman became available,he'd be gone in a flash,one of the best english centre's in the game.
Unfortunately Hall will never make it as a first choice centre,he's had enough opportunity's to prove himself.
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| Quote: Carlotti "Dear me ,If Yeaman became available,he'd be gone in a flash,one of the best english centre's in the game.
Unfortunately Hall will never make it as a first choice centre,he's had enough opportunity's to prove himself.'"
its funny to me that people say that when he plays SL and not one of you lot do and never will,2 seasons back he was at every position but what he should have been at,,
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| Quote: bigcjlchris "illiterate?? '"
Yes.
Quote: bigcjlchris "of my mate?? '"
Yes. You are friends with Craig Hall, aren't you?
Quote: bigcjlchris "i'd be more than happy to discuss this in person and we will soon see who's illiterate,'"
Thinly veiled threats don't make you any more literate, I'm afraid.
Quote: bigcjlchris "if hull get rid that does'nt mean he's not good enough he would'nt be the first player of any sport to be ditched just because the coach did'nt like him,'"
Right. So if the coaches keep him, that proves he's good enough, but if they get rid, it doesn't prove he's not good enough. Gotcha.
Quote: bigcjlchris "my WHOLE FAMILY PLAY SUPER LEAGUE boyo '"
Boyo? Are they Welsh? You must have a pretty small family if they all play Super League. I can't think of more than two or three players who are related in the whole competition.
Quote: bigcjlchris "we have been involved since day one of SL,,'"
We? So you play SL as well?
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| Quote: bigcjlchris "its funny to me that people say that when he plays SL and not one of you lot do and never will,,'"
You keep pulling that out of your ar[is[/i[ie[/i like it's relevant, or something. I've never played football for England, but I know they were crap in the World Cup.
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| Quote: Carlotti "Dear me ,If Yeaman became available,he'd be gone in a flash,one of the best english centre's in the game.'"
That would explain his long list of MOM performances, recent international appearances, and inclusion in the Dream Team then. Oh, wait a minute...
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