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| Quote: bonaire "Whether you love them or hate them HKR have always played attacking flair rugby.Why is that?
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Our best years under Morgan where underpinned by a good kick chase and a low error count. Last year we took a pragmatic approach to getting out of the Championship. We’ve had our moments from time to time, but I think you’re overstating things a little.
There’s nothing wrong with Radford’s preferred style of play and it has paid handsome dividends over the last couple of years. The difference this year is that you’ve had more injuries and some key players have retired or left. Plus now, maybe as a result of the downturn in results, your players seem dispirited or demotivated - shockingly so on Thursday.
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| Quote: bonaire "Whether you love them or hate them HKR have always played attacking flair rugby.Why is that?
It also seems that most of the promising young players backs and Half backs are destined for HKR and we go for the forwards.
When it comes to the style of rugby played it has to be the coach.
Wigan have changed their attacking style this season and its no coincidence that the top four teams all have abundant pace,and play a fast moving attacking style.
No doubt in my mind that if Pearson hadnt or doesnt act by refreshing the squad and getting rid of some deadwood we would have been destined for a mid table finish next season.
With regard to Jamie Shaul i think he is under instruction from Radford to take the ball up from acting half back to give Houghton a breather as Houghton hardly ever breaks now from acting half,but i agree he is a dead end when it comes to his link attack ball in hand.
Just wish we have someone like Quinlan who has been exceptional this season.Miloudi is not a full back but i would still play him on the wing for Talanoa.
Pushing Connor to full back could be the answer but then we lose his real attacking threat as a centre.'"
Completely agree about hkr and their style of play. But this is not a recent thing. As far back as I can remember Hull FC were known for forward power whilst rovers were know for throwing the ball about. Not sure if its a thing which is passed down from chairman to chairman, but it is a common theme in playing style.
Connor at Full Back could well being out the best of whoever plays centre (including Griffin) as it would have opposition defences second guessing what will happen. At the moment its inevitable with Shaul at No1.
Pace is something we sadly lack. I think if Toronto dont make it up, going for MCB might be a plan?
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Our best years under Morgan where underpinned by a good kick chase and a low error count. Last year we took a pragmatic approach to getting out of the Championship. We’ve had our moments from time to time, but I think you’re overstating things a little.
There’s nothing wrong with Radford’s preferred style of play and it has paid handsome dividends over the last couple of years. The difference this year is that you’ve had more injuries and some key players have retired or left. Plus now, maybe as a result of the downturn in results, your players seem dispirited or demotivated - shockingly so on Thursday.'"
You need the right personnel for it though. Even with a fully fit squad we lack size and aggression
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Our best years under Morgan where underpinned by a good kick chase and a low error count. Last year we took a pragmatic approach to getting out of the Championship. We’ve had our moments from time to time, but I think you’re overstating things a little.
There’s nothing wrong with Radford’s preferred style of play and it has paid handsome dividends over the last couple of years. The difference this year is that you’ve had more injuries and some key players have retired or left. Plus now, maybe as a result of the downturn in results, your players seem dispirited or demotivated - shockingly so on Thursday.'"
But its now outdated as can be seen by the top four teams and even Wakefield and Huddersfield have had good seasons playing expansive RL.
I agree you need forward power as Catalan have showed late this season but Hull FC are lightweight now in the forwards and cant dominate teams like when we had Watts,Gaz Ellis and Frank Pritchard.
You can imagine the fear in some teams when they saw Gaz Ellis and Pritchard coming off the bench together.
Now no team fears playing Hull Fc and that has to change.
Undoubtably Lee Radford works his socks off and that seems to be recognised by Adam Pearson but i still dont think he is the coach to take the club forward.
We have been a good knockout football club but without the consistency that it takes to be a top team.
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| I know we've had our injuries which have disrupted teh mid to latter part of the season but we have barely won an away game in over a year now. Only widnes, hull kr and them again at magic weekend in the last 12 months now I think. That to me is down to mental strength and attitude which is now coming through even more with the hammerings
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "You need the right personnel for it though. Even with a fully fit squad we lack size and aggression'"
Absolutely, and in the medium-term you need to fix that. Players returning from injury will help and it sounds like you’re going to buy or trade too. Getting some or all of your frontline halfbacks will help too.
The much-hyped group of youngsters who are now about 22, has now mostly drifted away or to the fringes of the squad, and the next batch are still very green. It was notable that Pearson emphasised that the additional players you’ll be bringing in won’t be kids for development, and I wonder if he feels a bit burned by how few of Turgut, HTW, Dean, Lancaster, Logan, Fash, Abdull, Matongo and Osborne have kicked on (so far).
More immediately, your 17 for Cas ‘just’ have to tackle anything that moves, and hope it wins overs the fans again even if it doesn’t necessarily win the match. Knock them off their stride and anything could happen.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "So who's left?
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I think you sum up Pearson pretty well.
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| at least some of our players seem to be making a name for themselves
"The Dons hit back with a contender for their try of the season. Miloudi somehow managed to evade two Newcastle players after collecting a kick over the line and weaved his way past several more before finding winger Jack Sanderson just before the halfway line and he cut inside his marker and then left the cover for dead".
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| Pearson's promises of silverware were met with derision, yet he delivered.
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| What annoys me a little is that Radford was patronising the fans a couple of weeks ago in radio and tv interviews by saying that because we had lost 4 on the bounce we wanted the squad ripping apart and new faces. Now, that is what may happen. The fans could see on game day the lack of effort and desire from certain players, we could see that some of the players are maybe just too injury prone now and next year needed some fresh faces.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "What annoys me a little is that Radford was patronising the fans a couple of weeks ago in radio and tv interviews by saying that because we had lost 4 on the bounce we wanted the squad ripping apart and new faces. Now, that is what may happen. The fans could see on game day the lack of effort and desire from certain players, we could see that some of the players are maybe just too injury prone now and next year needed some fresh faces.'"
Adam Pearson isn't stupid. He knows that there is no way he can deliver on what he came out with on Friday. It just isn't feasible. He is trying to get a reaction out of his players. I actually think that it will work and you will beat Castleford on Friday night. Then he can come out and say that pride and faith has been restored, thus enabling him to continue with this squad into 2019.
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| Quote: R.B.A "Adam Pearson isn't stupid.'"
Very true. He's delivered more in 7 years as FC owner than we achieved in the previous 20 odd. I think we all understand and enjoy Rovers fans coming on here and making ludicrous predictions that Cas with Gale are easybeats for our crocked and frankly awful team currently; a well-worn attempt to create some sort of negative overlay to an already disappointing situation when we are are beaten, and on tv too - hurrah! The reality is that we'll lose, and it will make not a jot of difference. We'll still be secure in SL and we'll still have the promise of action over the close season.
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| Quote: R.B.A "Adam Pearson isn't stupid. He knows that there is no way he can deliver on what he came out with on Friday. It just isn't feasible. He is trying to get a reaction out of his players. I actually think that it will work and you will beat Castleford on Friday night. Then he can come out and say that pride and faith has been restored, thus enabling him to continue with this squad into 2019.'"
I actually posted as much on Twitter on Friday evening so will see what happens
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| Quote: The Dentist Wilf "at least some of our players seem to be making a name for themselves
"The Dons hit back with a contender for their try of the season. Miloudi somehow managed to evade two Newcastle players after collecting a kick over the line and weaved his way past several more before finding winger Jack Sanderson just before the halfway line and he cut inside his marker and then left the cover for dead".'"
Its good to hear that Wilf but its third tier R/L
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| Quote: R.B.A "Adam Pearson isn't stupid. He knows that there is no way he can deliver on what he came out with on Friday. It just isn't feasible. He is trying to get a reaction out of his players. I actually think that it will work and you will beat Castleford on Friday night. Then he can come out and say that pride and faith has been restored, thus enabling him to continue with this squad into 2019.'"
Your right Adam Pearson isnt stupid.
He will deliver what he said.It wasnt just a rant to get a reaction.
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