What were the offloads stats? They seemed to be able to do a hell of a lot

Things like this are where I just think it's so difficult to understand/defend Radford's thinking. Whiting had a shaky start to this season, and was fairly left out, but it wasn't until he was moved to centre that his performance descended to terrible. This is where there are holes in his dropping/selection on merit argument. IMO we are not always playing the best options we have, and dropping those most deserving, which is how it should work. What he seems to be doing (halves apart) is basing it mainly on the defensive side of the game. So those who miss tackles are sent packing, even if they offer an attacking threat, but those who bomb chances (or don't even create any) are persevered with as long as they are solid in the tackle. My personal view is that the defensive side of the game should be easier to improve than the attacking side, so if you're going to focus on one over the other it would make more sense to persevere with the stronger attacking players and address their defensive issues. Good coaching should be able to do something about this, and given that Radford was lauded for our improved defence under Gentle, then surely it should be right down his alley to do this.

With Whiting at centre in particular it's compounded by the fact that we signed Sa to reinforce the centre position, but even approaching 3 months in we are still playing him in the back row, instead of Whiting. It seems so obvious to swap them around I simply don't understand why it isn't that way already.

This week he complained about our poor attacking play and said he'll consider changes for the derby, lets see if he makes any attacking changes or still sticks primarily with a 'defensively solid' (on paper, not the pitch) lineup.

What a truly crap season this has been.

What I will say is what was discussed on The Footy Show over here a few weeks back. I'm not saying Radford is the answer, I was never a fan of him taking the reigns in the first place, but far too much emphasis is placed on the coach's downfalls and mistakes rather than the players. The players are the ones who are actually on the pitch and they should perform better. I've thought this for years, the players and teams we've over the past few years should have performed better and more consistently than they have. Maybe this is down to the coach not motivating the team, I don't know, but the players should take far more responsibility than they do. 'Energy' is the big buzz word at the minute, but it's true that it's something we seriously lack in, and that's down to the players not wanting it enough. IMO. Attitude is a massive factor in any sport, and I think it's a culture problem at the club that we don't live and breath as winners, we are constantly the tryers who 'can match the big teams on our day'. Leeds and Wigan breed winners, we are miles behind in this department.

Why were sa and rankin not brought into the game earlier,they made a difference and surely if both were fit shouldn't they have been on the pitch from the off.For me just more evidence radford has no idea what his best side is!!

Radford actually admitted this was a mistake in his post-match interview.

Regarding sa he probably thought his aggression n options for back row where a good reason to have him come on from the bench. Also maybe thought whiting would be looking for a big game due to lack of opportunities this yr.
Whitings been a great servent but going forward I just cant see were he fits in.

That he's making this sort of "mistake" for such , in his words , an important game so late in the season shows that he has learned little since making the same "mistakes" in the pre-season friendlies - what was he trying to do at Featherstone? - and countless games since. There is absolutely no evidence or suggestion that he will be doing anything different next year.

Surprisingly 19-12 to us, we must have done all ours in the first 20, our maybe they count loose passes.

Maybe if we had a proper coach in place instead of assistant coaches who have no idea like Agar and Radford then we may see the players play a lot better and to an actual gameplan! Although I agree when the players are on the pitch there isn't much the coach can do but they still following his game plan and structures.

like most things in life success or failure is not down to one thing, but a combination of several factors. yes the players could do better but so could the coach, other staff, owner and even us supporters. the players drop passes, make stupid plays etc, the owner opens his mouth when he should keep shut sometimes, makes the wrong decisions in appointments, us supporters moan when we should be backing the team, and the coach makes bad tactical decisions, chooses the wrong team, has poor easy to read attacking plays etc. there are faults in other areas than just the coaching. unfortunately radford as head coach is the figurehead, responsible person, fall guy (delete as appropriate). if the team does poorly its the coach who gets the bullet. Its also his job to turn around players attitudes and mistakes etc something he's failed to do so far this season.

but you are correct some players need to have a good look at their part in our poor season

Just seen the highlights. Terrible first try to Bradford. Don't know if Shaul called or not but either way it's crap. If Shaul called why did Horne get in his way and if Shaul didn't call for it then why the hell not?

All i can say is I am glad I made the effort to go to the London and Widnes away games, the best two away games of the season. Really poor effort yesterday, should have been out of sight at 12-0. Roll on 2015.

I honestly believe that the players dont want to play for Radford. In Leeds and Wigan, you have 2 coaches that the players seem to like, respect and put their body on the line for. I dont see that with Radford, in fact it would appear that they are drained of all energy, and cant be ar5ed anymore. If Pearson sticks to his word and Radford is given next season to prove his worth, it could be a very long season.

I think the players, coaching staff and Pearson need a cards on the table meeting. Those who dont want to be part of the new regime (however poop it appears), should be shown the door, and that includes the coaching staff. If next season turns out to be a false dawn like this one, the damage could be around for years to come.

Playing devils advocate, had a proven 1st team coach been singed, I doubt we'd be in this mess.

My feelings exactly. The so called club culture is down partly to a succession of assistant `wannabe' / never will be `coaches'
& a reluctance to spend big on a coach.
Employ a proven first team coach, - everything else will fall into place

Indeed, we need a proven coach who is meticulous in leaving no stone unturned behind the scenes to get success.