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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: beetwaste "..., and the team decided they couldn't be bothered.....'"

Do you really believe that??

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You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs

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Quote: AirlieJo "You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs'"


I'd like to appreciate the high of a Wembley win just once before I shuffle off

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Quote: hull2524 "hey that was a major final for the dobbins'"



Yes, but it ranks lower than their real cup final, which strangely enough is always against us.

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Quote: paintman "The title of this thread sums it up.We are happy just to get to a final to me isnt good enough.Until we adopt the attitude of Wigan,Saints etc that losing is unacceptable we'll continue to be a team of chokers.Hopefully AP will change the "oh well at least we got to the final" attitude'"



And do you really think that's the attitude of the players. They're carrying round a massive history of non-achievement by former players and I'm sure would spill blood to win the cup. For anyone to suggest that they don't care is just too bl**dy ridiculous. They're professional sportsmen and whilst they may not win everything it won't be for want or trying or a "couldn't give monkeys" attitude.

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Quote: Hessle Roader "And do you really think that's the attitude of the players. They're carrying round a massive history of non-achievement by former players and I'm sure would spill blood to win the cup. For anyone to suggest that they don't care is just too bl**dy ridiculous. They're professional sportsmen and whilst they may not win everything it won't be for want or trying or a "couldn't give monkeys" attitude.'"

I'm afraid that for some people a disappointing performance will always be the result of a lack of effort. They just can't seem to get their heads around the fact that sometimes giving your all just isn't enough.

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Its not just about yesterday.Look at our history we are perennial runners up.My point is some fans are happy just to get to finals and that appeared to be good enough for some of those high up in the club.

Adam Pearson comes across as a man whos not going to settle for second best

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Quote: AirlieJo "You have to experience the lows to appreciate the highs'"


And by Christ we have our share of lows!!
It's about time this club adopted a more ruthless streek and that's not just in finals but in all games (like the Widnes game for example). Wigan don't give a stuff who they're playing, if they can they will crush them like in their semi and even the teams in earlier rounds, they racked-up relentless scores.
Time to adopt an 'unlikeable could'nt care-less approach'. that's how we'll start seeing the highs.

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You've got to start with your youth system.
Get good coaches in at the U16s & 19s level.
Hull is a massive RL city with loads of lads playing at all levels. How many Hull born lads where in your 17 yesterday?

When Shaun Wane returned to the Wigan club in 2002/3 he came in as U18s coach. Lam was the then U21s coach. They both set about coaching to win. Wane moved to the U21's as coach when Lam departed.
Under Wane's coaching they topped their League six time, I believe, winning 5 GF's in a row. Those "Kids" played yesterday.
S Tomkins, Charnley, Thornley, Mossop, Farrell, Tuson.
You have a great RL city and if a town the size of Wigan can do it so can HullFC.
Our current U19s may well win their league and the young lads who have made their debuts this year like Hampshire, Tierney, Williams and Burgess from the U19s have not been coached at all by Wane. He went from the youth system 2010 and others took over the culture.
Yesterday Wigan had eleven players from their academy in the squad and two overseas players.
As I said if Wigan can do it so can HullFC. You have numbers we haven't and the quality must be there. It just needs to be found and developed.
Best of Luck!

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Quote: Father Ted "You've got to start with your youth system.
Get good coaches in at the U16s & 19s level.
Hull is a massive RL city with loads of lads playing at all levels. How many Hull born lads where in your 17 yesterday?

When Shaun Wane returned to the Wigan club in 2002/3 he came in as U18s coach. Lam was the then U21s coach. They both set about coaching to win. Wane moved to the U21's as coach when Lam departed.
Under Wane's coaching they topped their League six time, I believe, winning 5 GF's in a row. Those "Kids" played yesterday.
S Tomkins, Charnley, Thornley, Mossop, Farrell, Tuson.
You have a great RL city and if a town the size of Wigan can do it so can HullFC.
Our current U19s may well win their league and the young lads who have made their debuts this year like Hampshire, Tierney, Williams and Burgess from the U19s have not been coached at all by Wane. He went from the youth system 2010 and others took over the culture.
Yesterday Wigan had eleven players from their academy in the squad and two overseas players.
As I said if Wigan can do it so can HullFC. You have numbers we haven't and the quality must be there. It just needs to be found and developed.
Best of Luck!'"


Which shows that its the culture of Wigan to win things not just be happy to get to finals

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Quote: paintman "Which shows that its the culture of Wigan to win things not just be happy to get to finals'"


And how long have AP and PG been here?

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Quote: 10-5 "Yep,checked the record books and we indeed have won at Wembley.'"


Yes but just the once. Not twice as you originally claimed!

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Quote: 10-5 "Yep,checked the record books and we indeed have won at Wembley.'"


It's getting harder to keep that old Betamax serviced though isn't it ?

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Quote: Staffs FC "It's getting harder to keep that old Betamax serviced though isn't it ?'"


Thought it was only available on Pathe News!

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