Thorman has a similar kicking game to Horne, he has a dangerous short kicking game like Horne does but his long range kicking game (what we lack) is not that effective.

How will you be able to assess whether they are average or not if you don't go to the games? We're rarely on Sky and you rate few people's opinions on here.

Just been watching some games form 2006 and Horne was excellent. Just don't think thorman is in the same class or has the organisational skills we desperately need

guess berrigans injured that game

Possibly the same way as me.

I was a passholder last season and was annoyed at what I got for my money. Lack of effort more than results got to me and it got to the point where I really wasn't enjoying going to rugby anymore.

This season i'll go when I feel im getting value for money.

If the club produces then they will get more money out of me as its more expensive paying on the day.

If they don't they lose out and I save money on not buying a pass.

He's another Stand Off.

In a side where the players run off the ball and support well it works well playing with two players of this style.

In a side that plays a forward up the middle no frills type of game you need a half back thats an organiser and creative.

Sadly I think we're the latter style of play and unless Sharp & Agar drastically change our style of Rugby League by next season we're gonna be in trouble.

Time will tell I suppose.

Fair enough. Personally I'm over last season's disappointments already. The club are doing something at least to try and make some positive changes by negotiating with Dykes and I think we've more players to come in yet. I can't imagine not wanting to see Crocker make his KC debut and welcome Richard Horne back in his testimonial season (plus England hero Mark Calderwood ) myself, but for me hope springs eternal.

At least the Blue Peter badge got you into museums and the like.