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Quote: carl_spackler "Depends if you can do something else, or can accept the fact that your body's not up to it. Or if somebody's daft enough to offer you a contract.

My suggestion was more about the fact that if it was at all commonplace for props to play on at top form for as long as you keep suggesting, 10 years' worth of rugby would give you plenty of examples to choose from. The fact of the matter is, most start to decline shortly after 30 and retire or drop down the divisions before they hit 35. It isn't impossible Lynch will play past 34 and still be playing well, but the law of averages says it isn't likely either.

Totally agree about Agar, I think it's now a case of the majority do.'"


Also if u look at other positions as well like the lockyers and stacey jones there is a lot of players playing longer now. I agree alot of players wont be as good as they was went they was say mid twenties but some are still very good and do a Job. Look at fitz im sure he was much better in his twenties but he hasnt let us down in the 2 years he has been here.

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That's still the same examples of Civoniceva and Price, with a back now thrown in. The rest are still under 34, so let's see if Hindmarsh and Ryles make it past that yet.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "Yes but we are looking at lynch for 2 years I would have thought. And Im convinced he would still do us a very good Job and a pack with Moa,Ogre and Lynch is a pretty dam good pack.'"


I've said all along that the addition of Lynch would give us a good set of props for next year, I don't know why you keep reiterating the point, it's not in contention. My point is precisely that he will only last 2 years, so if he costs a decent fee we'll be overpaying, and we look like having a distinctly short-lived pack.

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Quote: fc baldy "Hummed and ahhed over new contract...says he loves it here so signs for a yr and will bugger off to Oz....so using us for a better deal somewhere'"


The way Agar has treated him I can hardly blame him

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Quote: carl_spackler "I've said all along that the addition of Lynch would give us a good set of props for next year, I don't know why you keep reiterating the point, it's not in contention. My point is precisely that he will only last 2 years, so if he costs a decent fee we'll be overpaying, and we look like having a distinctly short-lived pack.'"


I agree he will probably last 2 years but I dont see a point in that. If our coach and Pearson cannot get younger props in 2 years then we will have a problem but I dont see them struggling. Plus Pearson will get the cheque book out if he needs to so im not worried that we will get just 2 years out of him.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "Also if u look at other positions as well like the lockyers and stacey jones there is a lot of players playing longer now. I agree alot of players wont be as good as they was went they was say mid twenties but some are still very good and do a Job. Look at fitz im sure he was much better in his twenties but he hasnt let us down in the 2 years he has been here.'"


Fitzgibbon lends himself more to my view than yours. Has done everything he can to keep himself in the best possible shape, but realises at 34 that his body has had enough.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Fitzgibbon lends himself more to my view than yours. Has done everything he can to keep himself in the best possible shape, but realises at 34 that his body has had enough.'"



Yes but he hasnt let anyone down has he ? He has still done a job for us and didnt we sign him and he played for us at 32 the same age Lynch will be?

My point is that Lynch could have two very good years left in him and if we can get them at fc I will be over the moon I for one am not bothered over his age. I would be more worried if it was a back as the older they get they lose there pace.

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Quote: Tongan Mafia "I agree he will probably last 2 years but I dont see a point in that. If our coach and Pearson cannot get younger props in 2 years then we will have a problem but I dont see them struggling. Plus Pearson will get the cheque book out if he needs to so im not worried that we will get just 2 years out of him.'"


If I'm honest here, I think you're being pretty out of order to Pearson. You seem to see him as some sort of a sugar daddy and keep saying he'll just get the cheque book out, that's unappreciative, undervaluing, and dismissive of the potential risk he's taking to run our club. He's not here to splash money around left, right, and centre, nor is it in the best interests of the club long term. I'd sooner he left us operating as a self-sufficient entity and didn't go down the silly-spending route.

And I don't see why you think we'll attract props no problem. Last close season we were after new blood there and missed out on several on the market, bringing nobody new in in the end. That's why I'm worried, because British players are now more desirable to clubs, and we have a habit of missing out when it comes to hot properties on the market. Whether that was entirely due to the previous board's frugal nature avoiding bidding wars, I don't know, it just concerns me if we have a lot of rebuilding to do all at once.

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Bloody ell, been busy on here tonight!

Lynch I would be happy with. A leader and a good prop in a team.
O'Carroll I'm not too sure about. Made of biscuit for a start, and why would Wigan get rid if he wasn't good enough? We'll see.

As for Bridge, he has really impressed me over the past couple of seasons, before that I thought he was an over-rated poser. Can't see him coming at all though.

And for the Gasnier, he's just played SOO ffs. Of corse he's still good enough. But another who won't be coming here.

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