Theres also a gulf between getting the best from an amateur team and being able to get the best from a set of top flight professionals. A good kick up the backside often is the difference at lower levels in all sports whereas at the elite level dealing with often temperamental players and players of different cultures the margins are much finer and need to be dealt with very differently.

Riley
Harrison
Wood
Cooper

Even briers at a push

Who was you talking to Stevie wonder?

The incorrect point you was trying to make was about the "top five" having great youth coming through. Wood is a veteran at the end of his career, and Briers came through the Saints youth system. If you are going to talk such , at least justify it with facts.

I wasn't trying to make any point infact I never even made the first post you quoted

He said only 2 of the 17 at the grand final came through the Warrington system. I said it was 4 and you could even include briers at a push