Lets abolish further education then He is trying to better himself,and i see nothing against that.I guess you tell potential students over there to get a job in this situation?????

As for getting a job,if you know anything of this area nowadays you should realize there aren't any jobs.

Got to say I kind of agree with Sheldon here...

I'm all for people furthering their education but that is the choice they are making. Student seem to get everything a the working class expense.

Without going into the ins and outs of student life I think it comes down to: "If I can't afford it, I can't have it"
I've had 3 pay cuts in 18 months and have had to cut back on alot but have so far managed to keep buying my pass. If it gets to the point were I cannot afford it, will the club give me a discounted price?? I think not!!

But it's true... Everything is financed for them in most cases and what isn't is heavily discounted.. Is it not??

no, it's not.
Tuition fees are now £9000 per year, plus a maintenance LOAN of up to £5000. All repayable with interest.

Now, lets compare that to somebody who decided not to go into further education and went to work in a factory, earning minimum wage, who will be able to claim Housing/Council tax benefit 'subsidy' plus they can claim working tax credit if earning under £16,000 and when they then have there tribe of kids is entitled to child benefit and working tax credit.
Now, who's the leach on the state?

More than likely the student who goes onto benefits after his course finishes because he can't find a job

BOTH!!

You get a loan to cover all of those fees which you don't pay back until you are earning a healthy wage and even then it is technically interest free, just covers inflation does it not. Nothing to stop them getting a job which only pays £20k p/a and the don't repay a penny. Or if they do get a well paid job and then lose for any reason thay, again, don't repay...
My loan which I have must be paid back no matter what, If i can't pay it it goes against my credit file and affects my credit rating and I still have to pay full price for everything. Students get a much easier life.

And to compare it to a benefit cheat is a little laughable. I've never claimed a single benifit in my full adult life, i've always paid in full for everything and just struggle along like everyone else when times are hard.. Maybe i'll just quit my job, declare bankruptcy and let the public foot the bill on my oustanding debts and living allowances!!

Your argument doesn't make sense, why would you go through uni to just accept £20k per year?
So now they shouldn't even get a loan from the government for their tuition fees? Maybe Ocean finance then eh? Silly argument.
Who mentioned anything about benefit cheats? I'm saying there's a lot of help available to low income families that aren't to students, to 'subsidise' them.
Oh and congratulations on never having claimed a benefit.

Well, until the universities get rid of all the mickey mouse degrees this is unfortunately going to keep happening.

I'm not saying you would... But you could.. My point was that everything is paid for for you as you we're implying that students have it tough... Tuition is technically FREE until you are a higher earner so at this moment in time it costs them NOTHING..
There is NOTHING to 'subsidise' me if I can't afford to pay my outgoings and/or life choices.

I aren't saying that students shouldn't get loans, they're getting a free step up to a potentially better life.. I'm saying; they're adults, if they can't afford to buy a Hull FC season pass at the adult price then tough SH... Just the same as it would be for me...

And the taxpayer foots the bill!!! TWICE.....

Same... As I said in my first post. I didn't want to get into the ins and outs but i've allowed myself to get dragged in as my post was misinterpreted. I have no issue with students getting asistance with their education but to get EVERYTHING heavily discounted is just wrong to me. It's nothing to do with affordability, IMO !!!

But the point is that their potential to earn is far less as they're restricted by college/Uni timetables. So the club reflect this in their pricing.
Also the club wouldn't want to lose a fan from 16 as it would be difficult to get them back at 21 or older.
It's the clubs CHOICE to do this, not the students DEMANDING it.

Every single person who has argued against it has used so many cliches and stereotypes it shows a lot of misunderstanding, which leads to ignorance in some cases.

What exactly are you trying to tell me?

I don't care who the club subsidise, I don't care of the price of any ones season pass.

If they can't afford one they have to find more money by either earning more or cutting out other luxaries.

What's so difficult to understand?