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Quote: Mrs Barista "Thought they were doing 7am training starts just lately. A few weeks ago wasn't it you that was saying they were flogging the players in training and they were knackered?
There's a difference, and yes it was me

Surely training would consist of warm up, bit of training ball work,warm down rehab, video sessions and the countless smoke breaks they can squeeze in but hey if your happy who am i to argue

From what i see they need to spend more time on the training pitch together with the ball in hand

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Thought they were doing 7am training starts just lately. A few weeks ago wasn't it you that was saying they were flogging the players in training and they were knackered?
One would hope their is more sports science involved than doing running around for lots of hours.

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Quote: The Brother "There's a difference, and yes it was me

Surely training would consist of warm up, bit of training ball work,warm down rehab, video sessions and the countless smoke breaks they can squeeze in but hey if your happy who am i to argue

From what i see they need to spend more time on the training pitch together with the ball in hand'"


Didn't say I was happy, just that you seemed to be saying they were doing too much at training recently and now they're not doing enough. In your comparison to Rovers, I'm sure Morgan spends a lot more time on detailed gameplans and tactics against individual oppostion players than we do.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Didn't say I was happy, just that you seemed to be saying they were doing too much at training recently and now they're not doing enough. In your comparison to Rovers, I'm sure Morgan spends a lot more time on detailed gameplans and tactics against individual oppostion players than we do.'"



No i said they was constantly getting flogged not how long they was there recently

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Thought they were doing 7am training starts just lately. A few weeks ago wasn't it you that was saying they were flogging the players in training and they were knackered?
They shouldn't need to be doing much fitness work at this stage of the season. Should be concentrating on skills

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Quote: frankie:2xfptra2] ""If he's still here next year I for one won't be getting a season pass. Not wasting good money watching boring one man rugby from inept coaching... The signing of two past it players in Long and Fitzgibbon isn't going to change things.'"

bye bye then

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Quote: Hutchie "i dont think him going would change anything this year, it would just paper over cracks and then the new coach may end up retaining some players agar may not have.

then in a year or so's time were back to this stage again.

Im prepared to give him the season, plus 10 games of next'"


Me too. RA is not happy with some of his playing staff and is desperate to get hi own players in and rid of the deadwood. The board are backing him so he will be given some or all of next season and then can be truly judged.

In the meantime all I hope is that he learns from his mistakes, I don't mind him making mistakes providing he does not make them again. Things like not using interchanges baffles me so hopefully he is learning as he goes. It's not what I wanted but he is the head coach and that is not going to change.

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Quote: Hutchie "i dont think him going would change anything this year, it would just paper over cracks and then the new coach may end up retaining some players agar may not have.

then in a year or so's time were back to this stage again.

Im prepared to give him the season, plus 10 games of next'"


That's a fair enough comment

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Quote: wolfie "dont see the point in these agar threads tbh,he will be here next season with his own squad, and certain players will of been released,then we can judge him,if hes still not upto it then its easy,HIS CONTRACT WONT BE RENEWED.hasnt people realised his hands are tied with certain players still under contract till end of the year and he cant play the type of rugby he wants with the players he has.
just my thought of course.'"

Ah, right. Only when Peter Sharp was coach, it was all down to him stifling the players and Agar. Not the players fault at all. Apparently.

When he has his own squad, what excuse is going to be used then?

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Quote: Kosh "Ah, right. Only when Peter Sharp was coach, it was all down to him stifling the players and Agar. Not the players fault at all. Apparently.

When he has his own squad, what excuse is going to be used then?'"
To be fair wolfie answered your question, he said that if his own squad doesn't cut it then his contract won't be renewed.
FWIW I think that when agar said that people had their last chance it was anger after a derby loss, players were still contracted for this year and we were planning on spending the full cap (or enough of it that buying players out would be foolish). Now some on here have asked for the spare cap money this year to be used, that again would be foolish. Say a player did become available and we had used the spare money to release players, he would of been crucified! The sensible approach would be to leave it until the very last moment and if no one comes up then use it. The only player agar has renewed wrongly is radford, but he has made 2 good ones to go along with it in Briscoe and Burnett.

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Quote: Kosh "Ah, right. Only when Peter Sharp was coach, it was all down to him stifling the players and Agar. Not the players fault at all. Apparently.

When he has his own squad, what excuse is going to be used then?'"

They wont be one,then i guess it will be time for him to go,and for what its worth i thought they panicked when sharp got the sack and so did agar,im not defending agar i just think he should be given till his contract runs out to prove himself,ive been following hull since 78 and ive never once thought about turning my back on them,yes im finding it tough atm as is everyone else,but ill still be there cheering them on every week.

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Quote: wolfie "They wont be one,then i guess it will be time for him to go,and for what its worth i thought they panicked when sharp got the sack and so did agar,im not defending agar i just think he should be given till his contract runs out to prove himself,ive been following hull since 78 and ive never once thought about turning my back on them,yes im finding it tough atm as is everyone else,but ill still be there cheering them on every week.'"


So will me and many others but that make it acceptable mate to have a coach that in my opinion is falling to do his job

All this judge him when he gets rid of the deadwood doesn't sit with me anymore it's about here and now for me and he can't improve players core skills or bring anything new tactically to the team

Maybe we should as fans say we won't go again this season we'll save our money till next season when we have better players

Only we never will, we expect any team wearing the black and white shirt to compete with pride,passion,committment and that starts with the coach

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Quote: east hull FC fan "To be fair wolfie answered your question, he said that if his own squad doesn't cut it then his contract won't be renewed.'"

I should have been a little clearer. I meant what excuse would be offered by people on here. To be fair to Agar, he's never blamed anyone other than the coaching and playing staff for our problems.

I find myself in an unfamiliar position. I'm not normally one to call for the coaches head, and I didn't do so when Kear and Sharp were in difficulties. I don't dislike Agar and I'm sure that he's doing his best to turn things around for next season if not this one. I just don't see any evidence that Agar is up to the job, and in particular his continued inability to manage his interchanges fills me with foreboding. It's an absolutely crucial part of the game and he doesn't appear to have a clue nor be getting any closer to having one.

I just don't feel that he has the necessary ability to do the job to the required standard, no matter how dedicated he is or how well he recruits. If that's the case then we can write off another season next year - and who knows how much damage that will do?

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Quote: The Brother "Maybe we should as fans say we won't go again this season we'll save our money till next season when we have better players
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Was thinking that too! But imagine if one of us said 'when the deadwood goes, i'll support the team again'? We'd be crucified by the 'in any kind of weather brigade' on here.....

Agar should be able to coach the best out of the players available, that is what a coach does. Anyone can say that they can be a good coach with the best players!

Bookmark this please - We will never reach a final with Agar at the helm!

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Quote: GM1 "Was thinking that too! But imagine if one of us said 'when the deadwood goes, i'll support the team again'? We'd be crucified by the 'in any kind of weather brigade' on here.....

Agar should be able to coach the best out of the players available, that is what a coach does. Anyone can say that they can be a good coach with the best players!

Bookmark this please - We will never reach a final with Agar at the helm![/quote]

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