Dominated the first 20 pretty much, just lacked a bit of cutting edge on their line to get over for a try. The last 20 we seemed to go away from the offloads slightly but Wigan were mote on the ball by that point.
Forwards all going well, big minutes from Pele and Herman that half and I like the look of Ashworth.
A pretty even game all round and only a kick try (with a bit of bad luck involved) against us.

not even now
shows the huge difference in speed and class

Im a seasoned campaigner so no that losing in pre season isnt the end of the world and alot happens in friendlies that wont later in the season.

However not going to lie this is awful, ive not seen one thing thats made me think we trouble teams. The defence for me is extremeley worrying.

I know its pre season but wow, seems far from a culture change at the moment. Gladly will be wrong.

Shows the difference in squad depth as well….No-one will get close to Wigan this season with the squad they have…he will have a job on keeping them all happy.

Didn't go. But first half sound ok ,Second half awful. Yes it's a friendly but did not expect that score. Couple of weeks to try to sort some stuff out.

Only pre-season but sadly I thought that was a very worrying performance from Hull. As I've said previously when on this board Hull are my second team and I want them to do well but it looks another tough year. A pretty good opening 20 led by some fresh, powerful forwards but a lack of direction in attack and too many losses of concentration. Wigan were very poor with the ball in the first half - French looked particularly sluggish. But in the second half, Wigan's depth and superior fitness clearly told and the way Hull fell away would have to be concerning.

Brown looks quality but Hull in this game looked to have similar problems to recent years - a lack of resilience when things start to go wrong, lack of concentration and discipline, limited squad depth and now with Clifford gone there's no clear organiser in the team.

I agree its a friendly but the difference in pace and class in huge.
I keep saying we have no strike in this team in the threequarters and as soon as the forwards run out of steam we are easy to exploit down the middle.
Rovers will do the same to us

Hmm.
My verdict after the first half was quite positive. Stood up to Wigan physically, defended pretty well and definitely promising from the forwards. A bit concerning in attack but new and slightly makeshift halfback combo, missing Trueman etc so I can live with it for now.
My verdict at full time is...oh dear. Strap in for another long year

No need to be so dramatic. We went well in first half and in second smith decided to take off a lot of players.

Charles must’ve got 25-30 mins
Litten got 40

Having them next to each other was our downfall. Think that edge conceded 4-5 tries in the second half.

Did Gardner even come on?

Wigan are the bench mark and we have 15-16 players who can compete. After that we’re in trouble

All fair comments. Wigan look the team to beat on paper this year.
I don't think you'll anything but weary resignation from Hull fans these days, we've seen it all before too many times.

Very fair summary. I quite enjoyed the first half but it was clear you guys hadn't got into gear, 2nd half massive gulf in quality. For us I thought that Ashworth went OK and Ese Ese, but our lack of depth was starkly exposed. No point in listing Carlos and Trueman as players to come in either as unlikely they will play much. If we need to finish 8th to maintain an A grade it looks a tall order

Thought we did well in the first 40. Ese'ese will be a big player for us. Ashworth, Pele and Brown positives too. Cator had a decent stint at 9 as well.

Our end of sets and attacking in the Wigan 20 was pretty bad though. Thought we really lacked a cutting edge.

While Wigan ran away with it in the second half, a lot of the tries went through Charles Edge. Maybe I'm clutching at straws on that.

Only a friendly but that's a concerning scoreline in terms of both defence and attack.

Good summary but a couple of things…yes a limited squad due to players still having contracts given by Radford,a Covid loan payment restricting us and sheer lack of youth chances by Both Radford and Hodgson has held us back as well…Trueman will make a difference when he comes back and your squad depth is frightening….we are going to be ok but will take a bit pain getting there