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| Quote: Tongan Mafia "Maybe it was the big wad of cash they was given that nobody else would that made them come to Hull maybe ?
Sharps was a no brainer stay at quins or come to Hull lol'"
never mind your homework keep it going mate,
everyone now thinks your a bigger than me
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| Quote: Tongan Mafia "the thing is Paul that long hasnt just had one injury hes had a few and the last year at saints he was injured a few like u say cannot be helped that is just rugby. But to have no natural cover especially knowing of the problems Horne has suffered and do nothing is poor in my opinion.
He keeps playing Washbrook in the halfs when it has NEVER worked but still does.
He seems to have only one plan and that is drive the ball up and kick.
And now we have given Radford another two year contract just because we didnt want him to sign for kr.
And he thanks us by smacking bailey and costing us 4th and then going missing in the derby gr8
He can bring Paul Cooke back for me as he would get us around the park again ...I know alot wont like me saying that but if there isnt anyone else available then he would do for me.'"
We did have cover, Washbrook, Berrigan and Turner. They might not be the best but that's what cover is. Who would Rovers play at SH if Dobson got injured?
We gave Radford another deal because he has earnt one with his performances this season and we did try for another prop but Fielden stayed put and LMS went to Saints.
We showed when Long and Horne played with Tansey at Fb that we are a good side, like I said if we keep them fit then we can challenge. Especially now that we are bringing in cover.
You are thinking of Cooke from 5 years ago, he is not the same player.
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| Quote: PAUL M "We did have cover, Washbrook, Berrigan and Turner. They might not be the best but that's what cover is. Who would Rovers play at SH if Dobson got injured?
We gave Radford another deal because he has earnt one with his performances this season and we did try for another prop but Fielden stayed put and LMS went to Saints.
We showed when Long and Horne played with Tansey at Fb that we are a good side, like I said if we keep them fit then we can challenge. Especially now that we are bringing in cover.
You are thinking of Cooke from 5 years ago, he is not the same player.'"
somewhat lonelier and larger now.. like a chubby homeless person
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| Quote: Panda92 "I wouldn't go that far
woth a try huh
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| Quote: Tongan Mafia "He can bring Paul Cooke back for me as he would get us around the park again ...I know alot wont like me saying that but if there isnt anyone else available then he would do for me.'"
People have been banned for less than this...
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| Quote: PAUL M "We did have cover, Washbrook, Berrigan and Turner. They might not be the best but that's what cover is. Who would Rovers play at SH if Dobson got injured?
We gave Radford another deal because he has earnt one with his performances this season and we did try for another prop but Fielden stayed put and LMS went to Saints.
We showed when Long and Horne played with Tansey at Fb that we are a good side, like I said if we keep them fit then we can challenge. Especially now that we are bringing in cover.
You are thinking of Cooke from 5 years ago, he is not the same player.'"
Well time will tell but I think its crazy having to take people like washbrook who is a loose forward and berro who is hooker/centre out of position all the time when we really should have a better option tbh.
Look at Leeds they have Sinfield,Burrows and Maguire all three are playmakers.
We seem to always just have the one. And if he gets injured then we are in trouble. All the best teams have more then one playmaker.
Regarding kr they had cooke and dobson they have now decided cooke is no good and got in Green. Yes they have been very lucky with dobbo not getting injured but they came into the season with TWO playmakers and both could lead the team around the park imho. We yet again had just the one in Long. Thats our problem.
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| Quote: EXPRO "NOT OFTEN WE AGREE KOSH , BUT HEY THAT MONTAGE OF QUOTES WAS PRETTY GOOD,
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| Quote: Chris28 "People have been banned for less than this...'"
We won a Challenge cup and got to the Grand Final with him steering the ship.
He also seemed to rise to the challenge and best us as well when he played for kr
And then this rubbish past player also then lead a poor wakey side to beat us as well.
Yes hes past it but still has the magic to beat us doesnt he.
The only reason weare not resigning him is so that Rule can keep face. Agar still respects cooke and think he could do us a Job.
If it wasnt for Rule then Cooke would be back as a black n white.
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| Quote: Tongan Mafia "Well time will tell but I think its crazy having to take people like washbrook who is a loose forward and berro who is hooker/centre out of position all the time when we really should have a better option tbh.
Look at Leeds they have Sinfield,Burrows and Maguire all three are playmakers.
We seem to always just have the one. And if he gets injured then we are in trouble. All the best teams have more then one playmaker.
Regarding kr they had cooke and dobson they have now decided cooke is no good and got in Green. Yes they have been very lucky with dobbo not getting injured but they came into the season with TWO playmakers and both could lead the team around the park imho. We yet again had just the one in Long. Thats our problem.'"
So Leeds rely on three players, where is there backup then? We have two halves plus cover in Berrigan, Washy and Turner.
The point is if your main players are injured then it's hard for cover players to have the same impact. For the odd game it's fine but over most of the season it shows. We can't replace Horne or Long this season as they both have contracts. We are bringing in cover, it won't be a star player but it will help. This time next year the options will be much different as we will have more money to play with to bring in some real quality.
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| Quote: EXPRO "got nothing to do with where he is from or what he is paid but is everything to do with the fact he is a model professional footie player who has talent to burn but has been through the mill recently and is now coming out the other side .. he will prove you all wrong!!! if he and SL can stay fit they will guide us around the park no worries'"
I like honre, but how many really great games can anyone remember him having for us?
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| Quote: PAUL M "So Leeds rely on three players, where is there backup then? We have two halves plus cover in Berrigan, Washy and Turner.
The point is if your main players are injured then it's hard for cover players to have the same impact. For the odd game it's fine but over most of the season it shows. We can't replace Horne or Long this season as they both have contracts. We are bringing in cover, it won't be a star player but it will help. This time next year the options will be much different as we will have more money to play with to bring in some real quality.'"
Paul its all about opinions I personally think that only long could guide the team around the park horne cannot.
all the three leeds players can all lead the team round the park if all three get injured then yes thats bad luck and they would stuggle.
but thats three who have to get injured instead of just the one.
I also agree that 2012 is the big year for us as we will have so much space in the salary cap.
To me we could have brought cooke back in on quite a low wage and gave him a chance to recapture his fc form...if he fails then we havent broken the bank so not a great loss but if he succeeds well then we could be off to wembley or the grand final with a bit of luck. long and cooke seems a much better fit then long and horne.
Plus if long got injured again then cooke could lead us around the park and we wouldnt have to pull the likes of berro out of position also our backs would get plenty more of the ball.
But rule has stated he aint coming back so not really much point going on about cooke. All im saying is that he would have been a low risk signing.
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| Quote: PAUL M "So Leeds rely on three players, where is there backup then? We have two halves plus cover in Berrigan, Washy and Turner.'"
The problem is, only one of them is capable of playing in the halves (and then only at 6 IMO), and we aren't well drilled enough throughout the team to help them out. We should be far more organised than we are without Long IMO. Whilst other teams suffer a dip in creativity/spark, everyone still knows what they should be doing. We end up like a youth team, where everyone just looks for somebody else to take charge.
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| Quote: Kosh "Because they're just sitting around waiting for the phone to ring, aren't they?
It's a work in progress. We're fresh out of magic wands.
Head was the ONLY player of any quality available when Cooke walked out mid-season. Dykes was a gamble that never paid off. Thorman I would never have signed - I can only assume this was a panic buy when it was decided that Dykes had to go early. Long has had injuries that could not have been predicted, not the sort of injuries you could attribute to his age. We've put Niklas onto full time training and are looking at bringing in another half for next season and already looking at Long's possible replacement for the year after.
There's no actual evidence that Horne's diabetes has been in any way responsible for his injuries this season.
No argument that we've recruited poorly in past years. This is now being put right. It will take time.
PS might have been a decent coach in different circumstances. Jury is still out on Agar for me. This is the one area where I think we may not be making as much progress as we ought to be.
Ah - now we get down to the real reason for all the angst.
Excellant Post Kosh !
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