Bobby's been gone a while, Harry moved on quite recently, superseded I'm afraid as we've progressed. They don't all make it or progress with linear trajectory; for every Shaul there's a Guzdek. Half a dozen Hull lads are current Challenge Cup winners, we're doing our bit.

Which one do you think could still make it and what position does he play ?

HTW and halfback

Cheers dave,obviously I dont take much notice of your under 21s is it,but you never seem to see any reports on how both our youngsters are doing until they appear because of 1st team injuries,which we know all about.

I guess the proof of the pudding is in the eating but I'd still rather more of our senior squad got some game time in early on or I can see us blundering into early season games undercooked (I like that word) and lose some we'd expect to win.

Unfortunately, I think sheens will prove to be rovers' best signing for many a year

Personally I would have played 4/5 more firsteamers today, but I can understand Radfords thinking after the way we finished last year.

Still early, but agree on Sheens, has them well drilled and they looked good today.

Did Hadley play today,down on the bench, but can't remember him playing?

No he didnt

I think he'll struggle to get into the side this season. I reckon he's way down the pecking order now and only injuries will get him into the team.

I think he'll be fine personally, Turgut, Downs and Fash are solid but don't really offer anything in terms of attack as of yet. I also think he's over taken Thompson who could become surplus to requirements once his contact is up.

Whilst I agree in not being sure who would step in to take his place I have to say I have been disappointed in his performces so far considering he has been in the pre season games to stake a claim. If you look at the difference between his and Bowdens performances and the attitude then for me Green just hasnt cut it so far. As one of the very few senior players on the pitch yesterday he should have stood up and shown Radford he deserves a spot in the 17 but has done very little.

For a guy his size he just doesnt seem to use it and was pretty much non existant for me on Sunday. All the more disappointing after his performances early last season.

Thought with the obvious errors, mistiming and general inexperience of the pretty much U23's squad out there on Sunday the younger players did ok.

It was indeed. Great kick. Just unfortunate he gave the forward pass on the resulting set on their line, although there must have been a mix up with Turgut. Thought Wray responded well after his first kick if the game went out on the full, put in a few nice kicks throughout the game. Good start for the kid, with things to work on.

I can too, but part of the fall off at the end of the season was celebrating the cup win for so long (understandably and I'm not moaning). I would hope that the upcoming games feature an increasing number of first teamers so that we can get a decent start to the season. I'm sure Radders and his coaching staff have it all planned though.

Agree on Sheens too. Wasn't there yesterday but a decent coach is half the battle for any team and if he's got them playing decent rugby at this stage, well, damn.