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| It seems Mr Allam is unhappy because the FA had the audacity to speak to others groups opposed to the idea...
Quote: The FA introduced a new policy to handle our application on the back of consultations with the City Till We Die group,
and we therefore feel that our application was already pre-judged, ""The FA introduced a new policy to handle our application on the back of consultations with the City Till We Die group,
and we therefore feel that our application was already pre-judged," the club statement continued.'"
Very OT...
Quote: The FA introduced a new policy to handle our application on the back of consultations with the City Till We Die group,
and we therefore feel that our application was already pre-judged, "Hull City Council has agreed to spend £10,000 to become an associate partner for this year's British Open squash championship, which will be held at the KC Stadium in May'"
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| Quote: Mick Cranes Sidestep "What we need to worry more about is the fact he may sell the football club, but keep the SMC to try and get one over the new owners, ourselves and the Council.'"
He can't. The agreement with the council provides that whoever owns Hull City also owns the SMC.
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| Quote: Diogenes "The agreement with the council provides that whoever owns Hull City also owns the SMC.'" I've not heard that one before - strange if true.
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| As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.
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| Quote: Punos "As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.'"
Allam wants it to make a loss, he uses it to avoid paying tax on his other businesses plus he scores cheap political points - a win-win for him.
Good to see Peter Levy and all the other speakers on Look North tonight referring to "Mr" Allam, with one sad exception - that pathetic brown-noser Simon Clark still using "Dr".
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| Quote: Erik the not red "Allam wants it to make a loss, he uses it to avoid paying tax on his other businesses plus he scores cheap political points - a win-win for him.
Good to see Peter Levy and all the other speakers on Look North tonight referring to "Mr" Allam, with one sad exception - that pathetic brown-noser Simon Clark still using "Dr".'"
Just hope Clark remembers that Johnny Whiteley is as much as a Dr as allam is for future reference
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| Quote: Punos "As regards to the SMC, didnt Adam Pearson say that it never made a loss when he was in charge of it.'"
thats true it made a profit every year under Pearson's stewardship. In Allam's defence (rare for me to stick up for him) a lot of the SMC's revenue used to be from corporate events and trade fairs etc which has really dropped off during the recession. But the other poster is most likely right when he suggests its a tax scam.
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| Quote: UllFC "But the other poster is most likely right when he suggests its a tax scam.'"
The tax implications of Allam's ownership of the SMC and City have been covered in Private Eye - there has been no hint of any retraction or apology to the great philanthropist in subsequent editions.
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| will mr allam recoup his £75 million, after all there is no stadium with the team and even selling all the players would probably only fetch £30 million.
or was he serious when he said the £40 million was a gift to the people of hull
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| Who the hell would buy them if he put them on the market anyway? He's in it up to his eyeballs with little chance of getting his cash back
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| Quote: BIG HOWARD "will mr allam recoup his £75 million, after all there is no stadium with the team and even selling all the players would probably only fetch £30 million.
or was he serious when he said the £40 million was a gift to the people of hull'"
He isn't going anywhere until he gets his money back which he needs premier league football to do. In the mean time he receives interest on his loans and tax breaks for his other companies through the losses
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| Quote: Brid B&W "He isn't going anywhere until he gets his money back which he needs premier league football to do. In the mean time he receives interest on his loans and tax breaks for his other companies through the losses'" but with no more money to bankroll them in the PL. I think this is a case of pursuing the stadium using the club as the route in, only thing is, he has the thing he didn't want and it is costing him dearly. He needs an exit route for his money and has no money for plan B at Melton/Ferriby (ground share plans??)
The man could retain the SMC in the hope of screwing the new owners of the football club out of more money by renegotiating City's agreement prior to the sale; ie make them responsible for maintenance of the stadium - it just becomes free cash for him - apart from our presence.
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| Quote: Erik the not red "Allam wants it to make a loss, he uses it to avoid paying tax on his other businesses plus he scores cheap political points - a win-win for him.'"
Today's budget is taking steps to stop this, perhaps.
Quote: Erik the not red "The measure blocks tax avoidance arrangements where profits are transferred between companies in the same group for tax avoidance purposes.'"
Could make life a little more difficult if Mr Allam is unable to get round this, assuming it affects him of course.
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| Quote: Diogenes "He can't. The agreement with the council provides that whoever owns Hull City also owns the SMC.'"
that simply isn't true.
I love these threads where the totally uninformed make stuff up, they're fun!
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| Quote: BIG HOWARD "will mr allam recoup his £75 million, after all there is no stadium with the team and even selling all the players would probably only fetch £30 million.
or was he serious when he said the £40 million was a gift to the people of hull'"
Dont you worry, there will be a long line of people to buy city.
They are "only" worth what their inome is. Providing they stay up this year, that means, £60mill next year from the EPL, if they get relegated next season then they are nailed on £60 mill parachute payments over 4 years (£120m income over 5 years.....)
Go down this year, they are still worth £60mill Para over next 4 years...
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