I agree totally how can you expect any Halfback to play on the back of a losing pack ???
We have not been agressive enough for years now

that is why we have brought in Paea ( and the project that is FEKA)
give the kid a chance after a full pre season
Looks a decent prospect to me and given a bit of confidence could turn out to be our Dobbo

Jacob will be a good player the lad is settling in, Holdsworth is the biggest let down IMO he has no heart and is very incosistent.

I thnk he has heart.
Just don't think he's as good as was sold, or hoped, or believed he would be.

Miller is the way forward.
He needs looking after.

So Miller can't be expected to play well behind a beaten pack, but Holdsworth can?

Probably why neither have set the world on fire.
Holdsworth is just bang average other than his boot (important factor I concede). We need a superior 6.
Miller has the potential to lead a team around the park in the future if he gets the breaks imo.

As second receiver he gets more time with the ball, Miller's under pressure straight away.

Well that would depend on the speed of pass to the second receiver and upon Miller always being first receiver and Holdsworth always being second. To lay all the blame at Holdsworth's door when they're both playing in similar positions ands in equally difficult circumstances seems to be a little like, er, what's that popular word on here? Oh, yeah, scapegoating.

If Radford can address our woeful play the ball speed in the off season, both players should be given a fair chance to show what they can do behind a pack that isn't everyone's bitch.

Exactly my thinking on our 2 overseas halfbacks ATM. Only one looks to be at least attempting to stand up and be counted, Holdsworth seems more willing to go into hiding when it's tough going.

I've noticed that will all teams but Wigan. Wigan always have there first man as O'Loughlin, Then the playmakers.

In a nutshell. Our no. 1 problem for the last 5 years or so. Sort it and add runners and our attack will transform.

I agree. Miller seems to try things even if they don't come off for him. That to me still makes him promising and full of potential.

DJ's had some good games for us too but they seem to be few and far between in my eyes. I'm hoping he can improve too but personally think we are more likely to see improvement from Miller.

Is it possible DJ's still suffering a bit from that head injury do you think?

Well not just the speed but the quality of the pass and also what options they have to put doubt into the defenders minds.

Holdsworths "demise" came after his head injury, seems to be forgotten.

I don't think it's so much that as that Miller at least tries different things & looks dangerous at times, whereas Holdsworth seems happy to just meander through games with about 4 plays: inside ball, next man along the line, look for McDonnell, or kick. They're all pretty basic, too.

I'm amazed that some on here are comparing a 21 year old kid with a handful of super league games under his belt to a seasoned pro who is quite prepared to go missing in games.