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14043_1351683912.jpg COME ON U UUUUUULLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAA
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "Millers tried his best and doesn't stop. He's not helped by an ineffectual pack who can't find the floor and get a quick PTB. Watch the other teams and compare with ours. It Holdsworth who needs replacing, not Miller. The kid clearly has talent. Holdsworth shows up in 3 or 4 games.
We need a "Dobson" to take us around the park, and that ain't Holdsworth.'"
I agree totally how can you expect any Halfback to play on the back of a losing pack ???
We have not been agressive enough for years now
that is why we have brought in Paea ( and the project that is FEKA)
give the kid a chance after a full pre season
Looks a decent prospect to me and given a bit of confidence could turn out to be our Dobbo ![bow down a014.gif](images/smilies//a014.gif)
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8077.jpg Always the Optimist never the Pessimist. Glass Half full not half empty man me.:8077.jpg |
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| Jacob will be a good player the lad is settling in, Holdsworth is the biggest let down IMO he has no heart and is very incosistent.
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| Quote: Ellam "Jacob will be a good player the lad is settling in, Holdsworth is the biggest let down IMO he has no heart and is very incosistent.'"
I thnk he has heart.
Just don't think he's as good as was sold, or hoped, or believed he would be.
Miller is the way forward.
He needs looking after.
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| So Miller can't be expected to play well behind a beaten pack, but Holdsworth can?
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| Quote: Rock God X "So Miller can't be expected to play well behind a beaten pack, but Holdsworth can?'"
Probably why neither have set the world on fire.
Holdsworth is just bang average other than his boot (important factor I concede). We need a superior 6.
Miller has the potential to lead a team around the park in the future if he gets the breaks imo.
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
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| Quote: Rock God X "So Miller can't be expected to play well behind a beaten pack, but Holdsworth can?'"
As second receiver he gets more time with the ball, Miller's under pressure straight away.
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| Quote: Sheldon "As second receiver he gets more time with the ball, Miller's under pressure straight away.'"
Well that would depend on the speed of pass to the second receiver and upon Miller always being first receiver and Holdsworth always being second. To lay all the blame at Holdsworth's door when they're both playing in similar positions ands in equally difficult circumstances seems to be a little like, er, what's that popular word on here? Oh, yeah, scapegoating.
If Radford can address our woeful play the ball speed in the off season, both players should be given a fair chance to show what they can do behind a pack that isn't everyone's bitch.
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| Quote: cod'ead "Miller may take the wrong options at times but watch him throughout a game, he's looking around so much, you'd think his head was on castors. I'd far rather have a half who's constantly trying and occasionally failing than one who simply goes through the motions'"
Exactly my thinking on our 2 overseas halfbacks ATM. Only one looks to be at least attempting to stand up and be counted, Holdsworth seems more willing to go into hiding when it's tough going.
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| Quote: Sheldon "As second receiver he gets more time with the ball, Miller's under pressure straight away.'"
I've noticed that will all teams but Wigan. Wigan always have there first man as O'Loughlin, Then the playmakers.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "I think our biggest problem is not fighting to get off the deck. We're just so slow at the lay the ball.'"
In a nutshell. Our no. 1 problem for the last 5 years or so. Sort it and add runners and our attack will transform.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Exactly my thinking on our 2 overseas halfbacks ATM. Only one looks to be at least attempting to stand up and be counted, Holdsworth seems more willing to go into hiding when it's tough going.'"
I agree. Miller seems to try things even if they don't come off for him. That to me still makes him promising and full of potential.
DJ's had some good games for us too but they seem to be few and far between in my eyes. I'm hoping he can improve too but personally think we are more likely to see improvement from Miller.
Is it possible DJ's still suffering a bit from that head injury do you think?
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23521.jpg [quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Rock God X "Well that would depend on the speed of pass to the second receiver and upon Miller always being first receiver and Holdsworth always being second. To lay all the blame at Holdsworth's door when they're both playing in similar positions ands in equally difficult circumstances seems to be a little like, er, what's that popular word on here? Oh, yeah, scapegoating.
If Radford can address our woeful play the ball speed in the off season, both players should be given a fair chance to show what they can do behind a pack that isn't everyone's bitch.'"
Well not just the speed but the quality of the pass and also what options they have to put doubt into the defenders minds.
Holdsworths "demise" came after his head injury, seems to be forgotten.
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| Quote: Rock God X "So Miller can't be expected to play well behind a beaten pack, but Holdsworth can?'"
I don't think it's so much that as that Miller at least tries different things & looks dangerous at times, whereas Holdsworth seems happy to just meander through games with about 4 plays: inside ball, next man along the line, look for McDonnell, or kick. They're all pretty basic, too.
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| I'm amazed that some on here are comparing a 21 year old kid with a handful of super league games under his belt to a seasoned pro who is quite prepared to go missing in games.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "I don't think it's so much that as that Miller at least tries different things & looks dangerous at times, whereas Holdsworth seems happy to just meander through games with about 4 plays
Its's gonna be interesting because he was firmly PG's man and he appeared to have a lot of faith in him.
Hopefully he has it in him to lift it to another level next season now he's bedded in.
I have lingering doubts mind.
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