I never read into this, I don't think any player goes out on the pitch thinking "I can't be bothered".

More to the point, if the player was showing that kind of attitude, the coach, yes even Agar, wouldn't pick him.

Oh well that makes all the difference then.

Normally I'd agree, and I'm usually the one defending our players against such allegations. But I honestly can't come up with a more plausible explanation for the way Thorman played last night.


That assumes that the player showed that attitude pre-match, and that the coach was astute enough to pick up on it.

Agar, astute, hang on, I'll need to think about this.

Its the constant I'm right, you're wrong attitude you have that gets under my skin. It's not the points you make (most are fair) it's the delivery of them. This is a board of opinions and you and some others can't accept other peoples.

Nope - the club expects him to bend his knees and put his shoulder in to a standard tackle as a SL player. Anything less than that opens up the possibility of a pointed reaction as per this thread.

Yeah, I know, plenty of people can't accept mine. Less that there used to be though and more will follow

My word....i have openend a can of worms havent i.....................Thorman against Wire and more so at leeds was shocking totally shocking and should never play 1st team again....will he get the same treatment as Hall???

We should never have signed him after he turned his back on us the 1st after agreeing and signing??..........The avatars was a bit of fun which may have been a bit ott....end of the day Thorman is truly a shocking player and single handed cost us the game on Tuesday night in one of the worst displays i have witnessed.....those that say support him..why??? he is a pro rl player earning good money...he shouldnt need supporting,he should be able to get on with his job......you can stick a fork in him as he done as a SL player....."IF" he plays against Sts...he wont get booed by me but he wont get my support either....just silence.

There you have it. Yet our coaching team judged him to be the first choice scrum half needed to get us back into the top 4 and enough of a leader to make him vice captain. Unfair all round IMO. In hindsight we should have looked to offload Dykes earlier and give ourselves a fighting chance of getting a top class 7, but we didn't.

Should have kept him and got him fit...didnt he just require surgery to sort his Knee out...i know he would have been out for 2 mths of season but a fit Dykes (cue Hutchie)is worth a hundred Thormans.

Although I agree his performace was totally dire/shocking, I do not believe he alone cost us the game, a lot of players missed one on ones, I noticed they hardly spoke to each other on the pitch. A few players made individual errors.

He cost us 3 tries in the 1st half alone......total of 16 points.

I wish the guy luck for the future, I just don't want to see him in a Hull shirt ever again.

i might have a few quid on first try scorer next time out 600/1