It's amazing what a bit of bad form will do. 5 games in and the club could do no wrong.

We don't need a "major shake up of the board," we are a Grade A club, but because the players are making errors and not playing well the "board is a joke".

The fact that they won't spend money is a myth, in recent years we've seen them sign Crocker, Berrigan, Dykes, Sing, Blacklock, Swain, Smith, Barnett, Kearney. All of them are/were on massive wages. However the money isn't necessarily spent in the right areas, it's clear that need a top 7 and although Crocker is a great player he was a luxary purchase and the money spent on him would have been far better spent there. However, surely it's the coaches job to identify the targets and then the board go and see what they can do?

As for on field, there's a lot of talent out there, but for some reason they just aren't firing. We've seen what Thorman is capable of against Bradford, but at the moment he is just going through the motions, he doesn't attack the line and when he gets the ball he just gives it straight to the next man, or if close to the line, puts in a poor kick straight to the fullback, is it the coach that tells him to kick all of the time or is he doing it because he doesn't think he's capable of doing anyhting with the ball in his hands?

We have a pack that tries hard, but with the exception of Manu we don't have anyone who can consistantly bend the line and put us on the front foot, but thats fine, theres plenty of teams who have packs like this, however these teams don't try to play straight down the middle like we do. Look at Castelford for example, they don't have a pack that can particularly boss a game, but instead they look to get out of dummy half quickly and get the ball wide, and they have a lot of success from it. We just go straight down the middle and get bitched time and again. We need to change our game plan to suit. Another thing I noticed all last season and it's creeping in again is how poor our line speed is. Even if you're not the biggest there is no excuse for not being the most enthusiastic, we need to get off the line quickly and stop giving the opposition 10 metres before they reach our line.

I think alot of the things I've mentioned are down to confidence. We weren't blowing teams away early on but we were comfortable, and then we came up against Castleford and it was a game that we probably didn't deserve to lose and so to have the game snatched away from us as it was really hurt the players imo, it was like a throwback to last season, and today the side really looked as though it was lacking in confidence. We just need to find a win somewhere and we will do okay. We are certainly good enough to make the playoffs. I fancy our chances on Friday tbh, but I just hope the players react well to todays disappointment and that they want to put things right, I hope today hasn't hurt their confidence even further.

One more game away at Bradford, can smash whoever he wants

with 8500 freebies

I agree with the Brother. We do need change and it needs to be at the top.

Remember the "cancer" while McCrae was here.

Cookies crimes

Cookie leaving

Salary cap break x 2

Thacks leaving

Kear leaving

Thacks Challenge cup

What is the one thing consistant throughout the above?

The owners/board (except Plummer who "retired"icon_wink.gif

That today was horrible to watch. We played one man rugby all game, including in their 20 metre zone! It was shocking! We don't seem to learn from the mistakes we make. Do our players even know what they're doing wrong? Because they don't seem to try and change things that don't work.

I wouldn't mind knowing what goes on in the coaching department. Do they use technology to analyse performances? Is it good enough? Do we have sport psychologists checking our players over? Because we seem to be able to either be consistently good or consistently sh*t!

The thing is, I think we've got some really good talented individuals at this club, and at times they can play really well together. But they seem to be clueless at other times as well. There's something wrong up in the control room and Agar needs to find out what if he's going to get anything out of these players, otherwise we're just gonna fall onto a slippery slope again.

Record attendances and season pass sales

2 challenge cup finals with one success

Grand Final

Grade A License

£1m turnover

3 years on the trot making profit

What is the one consistant throughout the above?

The owners/board (except Plummer who "retired"icon_wink.gif

The idiot that started this thread is unbelievable !! you lot were top of the league a couple of weeks ago....now two weeks later you are wanting to sack the board, sack the CEO, sack half the team cos you have lost a couple of games !! I just cant work some people out Jesus christ !!!

Attendances have fallen, pas sales up however, you can have half a point

Challenge Cup 2005 Kear
Challenge Cup 2008 players who wanted to play for the shirt and the fact Dykes played in cup games

Grand Final - Kear

Grade A - US THE FANS. a council built stadium, sucess as detailed above

Turnover is £5 million +

As for profit, any accountant cam make any accounts say anything they want. And the profit has been invested in..................

Really? So just how many people attended our games in 1999?

Kear was appointed by the board you loathe, was he not?

Thanks, that's the best laugh I've had all day, you mean Kear the man that the players refused to play for in 2006 got us to that GF?

Whilst it's obvious that some people are over reacting on this thread, it's equally obvious that there's [isomething[/i wrong at the club. There's no excuse for lack of effort/interest and it's usually an indication of problems off the field.

Exactly. Trouble at mill seems the only explanation because the difference in attitude from the start of the season is palpable.