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| Quote: weaver93 "poor attitude stems from a lack of competition for places, and players minds focused elsewhere.
Lack of competition for places, are from too many injured personnel and youngsters not capable of playing SL.
Until AP invests in Sports science, nothing will change.
Regarding Gentle, I feel he has improved our defense tenfold,( however some players as he has alluded to are "uncoachable"icon_wink.gifour attack still needs a lot of work.
Until Gentle's players are suitably equipped to play at a higher level (Conditioning & sports science) then questioning his ability can come into play - IMHO'"
I'd invest in a handling coach aswell .The handling skills at the club have been unacceptable for years .
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Are you on drugs?
Are you seriously suggesting that a professional sportsman should tell his boss he will NOT play when asked? He would be hounded out by the fans if they got wind of a player who refused to play.
To even suggest he is rubbish, after one very poor performance last night, is more blinkered than those you were responding to.
Awful defensively? To me that comment suggest you don't attend games.
Prior to last night, the main deficiency in his game at full back was his positioning when defending near his own try line.
Your post just screams of being a typical knee jerk reaction o a poor performance.'"
I meant he should be played in positions he cannot handle (the coach's decision not the player).
I've attended many games thanks I'd wager that over the last 5 years probably more than you!!
IMO Tom is vastly overrated. He is not world class, he's just a very good winger.
He's always been poor under the high ball, he is poor defensively both with positioning and tackling. He's not actually THAT fast.
That said he is freakishly strong and shows some individual brilliance and skill.
Clearly has talent and potential but he has many things to work on before he's anywhere near world class.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Are you on drugs?
Are you seriously suggesting that a professional sportsman should tell his boss he will NOT play when asked? He would be hounded out by the fans if they got wind of a player who refused to play.
To even suggest he is rubbish, after one very poor performance last night, is more blinkered than those you were responding to.
Awful defensively? To me that comment suggest you don't attend games.
Prior to last night, the main deficiency in his game at full back was his positioning when defending near his own try line.
Your post just screams of being a typical knee jerk reaction o a poor performance.'"
You only need to go back to last week when he held up the Catalans winger over the line preventing a try, that was superb defence.
I'm embarrassed with some of the knee jerk reactions on here to a loss sometimes.
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| Quote: steve_norton "You only need to go back to last week when he held up the Catalans winger over the line preventing a try, that was superb defence.
I'm embarrassed with some of the knee jerk reactions on here to a loss sometimes.'"
ONE, TWO if you count the one on Fox. I wouldn't struggle to find you an error he's made which has led to conceding a try. And that's not counting last night!!
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| The most fickle set of fans in world sport.
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| Quote: Barnabus "The most fickle set of fans in world sport.'"
Wrong board, old chap.
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| Quote: B0NES "I'd invest in a handling coach aswell .The handling skills at the club have been unacceptable for years .'"
I agree, the players definitely need some 'back to basics' sessions in the off season
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| Quote: FONT "Class!
Re signed Ben yet?
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| Quote: Staffs FC "I don't think Gentle is immune from criticism whatsoever. People are giving him time to turn the club around. There have been signs early in the season that we have attacked better and defended better than previous years but it's not yet cemented as the 'normal' way FC play and likely wont be until the squad overhaul is well underway. If it isn't better this time next season then fans, but more importantly the owner, will no doubt be asking questions. By your own argument it would be very difficult to criticise Gentle last night when normally reliable players make so many basic errors. I doubt they're coached to do that so the responsibility for defeat rests 100% firmly with the majority of the players and their unprofessional attitude IMO. Which is what a lot of fans are saying.'"
I'm not blaming Gentle btw just saying that he is in charge of these performances so has to take credit/criticism just like the players do. I take your point on squad overhaul but there were only four players who are leaving us next year in that 17, that's not that many. Also if the players attitude is wrong isnt it up to the coach to spot that and ensure it's put right or they are not picked.
For me it was the sort of display that happens once a season and even normally reliable players made basic errors. I don't think they need driving off and dumping somewhere becuase of one game.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Also if the players attitude is wrong isnt it up to the coach to spot that and ensure it's put right or they are not picked.'"
Would be nice to have that option, but at the moment we don't have enough players available.
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| Quote: Kosh "Would be nice to have that option, but at the moment we don't have enough players available.'"
Green could have played, Bowden and Kent?
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| Manu - Ripped Catalan a new one last week, completely inept this. One good then three bad this season. Been inconsistent throughout his career.
Turner - He's a future international you know!
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Hull's problem has been for years having too many players in various positions that are unable to reach the required standard over the period they are playing both during in a game, and from game to game.'"
What's your take on Manu leaving? As this sentence describes him perfectly.
Got everything you need, but doesn't do it week to week.
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| Quote: PAUL M "Green could have played, Bowden and Kent?'"
Maybe Shaul as well.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "What's your take on Manu leaving? As this sentence describes him perfectly.
Got everything you need, but doesn't do it week to week.'"
I agree with that and said it on another thread specifically about him. In his defence he can and has won many games virtually on his own and is an X factor player with an amount of freakish talent that can make a difference. When he's anonymous he's very anonymous though and the total absence of a second row for Hull against Widnes proves it. Wish he was staying as his good well outweighs his bad though.
If the Chase signing actually happens I expect to saying the same about him one or two years in.
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