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| Quote: Big Dave T "I agree that the ref shouldnt pick Lauaki out as he did. However, i also think Lauaki has major problems with his style and technique which need to be addressed. Those aren't the refs fault but Lauaki seems to be largely blame free for some on here.'"
Possibly because he's no more to blame than pretty much any other player of his type? Certainly what his penalty stats seem to suggest at any rate.
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| And to think the amount of stick i got on here when i said he cant tackle, a penalty machine and lazy He has a coupleof good runs a game.
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| Quote: Kosh "Possibly because he's no more to blame than pretty much any other player of his type? Certainly what his penalty stats seem to suggest at any rate.'"
Isnt the arguement that people think the ref is picking on him for those penalties and he hasnt even given those away?
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| It's ok he'll bump someone off in the derby and he'll be a hero again just like he was after the 1st game of your season
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| Quote: MrPhilb "It's ok he'll bump someone off in the derby and he'll be a hero again just like he was after the 1st game of your season'"
If he did that every game he would be a hero. He doesnt though.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Isnt the arguement that people think the ref is picking on him for those penalties and he hasnt even given those away?'"
No. There may be one or two that were harsh - I'm not sure he deserved the treatment he got in the Derby for example - but the main argument is that his game is being stifled because he is being over-careful due to the pre-emptive warnings he receives from refs.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "If he did that every game he would be a hero. He doesnt though.'"
Does that mean he deserves to be criticised - because he doesn't break the line every game ?
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| I just wish he were as good as Manu, and why the hell do we switch tickle around to accomodate him when he comes on and then not bother to give him the ball anyway
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| Quote: Superbowl Scott "And to think the amount of stick i got on here when i said he cant tackle, a penalty machine and lazy
He isn't even in the top 25 for giving away penalties.
I won't comment on the other two points as I haven't seen enough games to judge. I suspect you may be in the same position given your location.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Does that mean he deserves to be criticised - because he doesn't break the line every game ?'"
He was signed as an impact prop/2nd row. In the majority of games that he plays does he give us impact? If he doesnt then he is open to criticism. I dont think he does.
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| Quote: Kosh "No. There may be one or two that were harsh - I'm not sure he deserved the treatment he got in the Derby for example - but the main argument is that his game is being stifled because he is being over-careful due to the pre-emptive warnings he receives from refs.'"
So should the coach tell him to deal with it and stop been over careful rather than feeling sorry for himself?
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| Quote: Big Dave T "He was signed as an impact prop/2nd row. In the majority of games that he plays does he give us impact? If he doesnt then he is open to criticism. I dont think he does.'"
He attracts plenty of defenders in every game. That can only be good for his team mates.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "He was signed as an impact prop/2nd row. In the majority of games that he plays does he give us impact? If he doesnt then he is open to criticism. I dont think he does.'"
I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as you're making out. He's not as good as Manu, but not many are. He's highlighted by opposition coaches as a danger man, and as someone it might be good to wind up. Because of this, when he gets the ball he comes in for heavier treatment than most.
That being said, he causes defences to worry, breaks the line quite regularly (not as frequently as Manu, granted), and is capable of a decent off load. He has his faults (short temper, big mouth, prone to the odd error), but on the whole I'd rather he was with us than against us.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "So should the coach tell him to deal with it and stop been over careful rather than feeling sorry for himself?'"
And then when a string of undeserved penalties follows he can get [ireally[/i pilloried on here. Not to mention the damage done to our chances of winning games.
Why have you taken against him so badly? That's the second time you've accused him of acting like a big kid when there's a total absence of evidence of him doing any such thing.
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| Quote: Kosh "No. There may be one or two that were harsh - I'm not sure he deserved the treatment he got in the Derby for example - but the main argument is that his game is being stifled because he is being over-careful due to the pre-emptive warnings he receives from refs.'"
For instance I would bet that if he ever fought to get up and have a quick PTB he'd get penalised for lashing out or something. He does give penalties away but I'm surprised at BDT picking up on it when he defends the penalty machine that is Radford
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