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| Simple Question
Why would Agar go to Rule ??
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| Quote: Standee "Agar grew up on the same street as the Hetheringtons.'"
Quote: Standee "Richard Agar in the Indepent is quoted as saying "Jon and I grew up on the same street."'"
Any other members of the Hull FC staff grow up on this street?
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| Quote: Hutchie "Simple Question
Why would Agar go to Rule ??'"
His immediate 'line manager'?
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| Quote: Standee "To be honest nobody at the club seems to come out of this well, the CEO for letting the coach change club structure, Agar for spitting his dummy because Sharp had the temerity to criticise him, Sharp for washing his linen in public or the Hetheringtons for backing a clearly failed caoch.'"
Standee I am not falling out with you or arguing but when did Agar Spit his dummy out over Sharp critisising - I missed that one
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| Quote: kathy kirk "Standee I am not falling out with you or arguing but when did Agar Spit his dummy out over Sharp critisising - I missed that one'"
Apparently it's why he went to Rule, as I said, shreds of truth in the story, just not 100% where they stop.
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| Quote: FoD FC Army "Any other members of the Hull FC staff grow up on this street?'"
It was the RL equivalent of Stella Street.
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| Quote: t.m.t.b.f. "I remember being at the 1980's reunion just before xmas and Agar was there with Sharp. Jon was buzzing just being back amongst his ex team mates from the 80's but Agar just looked bored and totally disinterested which made it look as though it was an effort just to be there. Towards the end of the afternoon Sharpy just wanted to get round as many fans as possible and rekindle old memeories but Agar was busting a gut just trying to get Jon back in the car and head off. I thought at the time about Agar and felt like telling the f00kin pr1ck what a disrespectful lover he really is. Instead i'll tell him when he gets off the team bus at Wigan because that will be the night when the team and the fans will really stick the knife in him.'"
That would be the same dinner that Agar and Sharp told me that I would be "surprised at our play this season". At the time, I naively took that comment to mean that I could expect to see some type of fast flowing attractive rugby, how wrong I was.
I am still waiting for the opportunity to inform them personally that I am far from surprised, and in addition, I am embarrassed and ashamed of the team I support, thanks to their inability, either individually or collectively to get anything like the best out of the current set of players at our club.
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| Quote: The Brother "But there is major problems behind the scenes with our coaching staff, '"
No sh*t?
Quote: The Brother "and Sharp isn't the problem'"
We'll have to agree to differ. He's at least a part of it, even if he's not the one the players don't like. He was rubbish at Hudds and he's rubbish here. The entire coaching staff need clearing out, in my opinion, and a totally new set up put in place.
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| I don't go along with all this 'Sharp is not part of the problem' bollox.
At this club for too long we have made excuses for different people which means they have been kept in post and we have never had a proper clean sweep.
Agar was here when PS and JK were around so he was part of the problem. JS is around and involved with RA so they are both part of the problem. We need to appoint a new coach and let him appoint his own backroom staff. That for me is the only way we will see a positive impact to the way we play our rugby.
That said it won't happen.
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| Quote: PAUL M "I don't go along with all this 'Sharp is not part of the problem' bollox.
At this club for too long we have made excuses for different people which means they have been kept in post and we have never had a proper clean sweep.
Agar was here when PS and JK were around so he was part of the problem. JS is around and involved with RA so they are both part of the problem. We need to appoint a new coach and let him appoint his own backroom staff. That for me is the only way we will see a positive impact to the way we play our rugby.
That said it won't happen.'"
Agree 100% Paul, the Head Coach should be the ultimate head of rugby operations, everything else should go through them.
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| If Agar goes, Sharp has to go aswell!
Its evident that under his guidance we have took another step backwards. And here's the proof...look at Huddersfield. They release Jon Sharp and Chris Thorman and bring in a new exciting coach. What happens? They're playing really well.
Compare that to Hull who thought they were making a great decision in signing these two clowns....12th in the table.
The fact is, Agar and Sharp complient each other's lack of skills really well!
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| Quote: The Brother "But there is major problems behind the scenes with our coaching staff, and Sharp isn't the problem'"
Well i know that Sharp, Agar and the rest aren't respected by the U18s never mind the first team.
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Well i know that Sharp, Agar and the rest aren't respected by the U18s never mind the first team.'"
I would agree with that. The fact is that some people have a certain aura about them that commands respect without doing very much at all. Bomber had it in abundance. The lads only had to think he was anywhere around for the training camp mood to go up a notch. Kear had it while Bomber was there then lost it. Peter Sharp never had it. Others gain respect through knowledge and leadership.
I have to say that Andy Last has more respect among the youngsters. Whatever folk might say to the contrary I have seen him working and he is good at what he does. Having said that there is of course a vast difference between coaching at under 21 level than there is to dealing with the complexities of pitting your wits against Superleague coaches, some of whom are very good at what they do.
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| Quote: Kosh "His immediate 'line manager'?'"
i would not have thought he was, i would have though he was only answerable to the chairperson/board and i mean the proper board, not the ones at the coal face
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| Quote: Hutchie "i would not have thought he was, i would have though he was only answerable to the chairperson/board and i mean the proper board, not the ones at the coal face
Ultimately, yes. Only the full board can hire or fire the coach. But as Rule has responsibility for the day-to-day operation of the club he'd effectively be Agar's immediate manager and (in theory at least) the first person to go to with requests etc.
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