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| Quote: hullbg "It will all go away when city lose the majority of thier games next season anyway.'"
Probably more a case of that what you are hoping.
I prefare to see as much top flight sport based in our city as possible. Hosting games for the World Cup would be great for Kingston upon Hull. |
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The capacity can change due to how the segregate the away fans, number of stewards, sterile areas etc etc . I believe they also lost some space when the press area was extended and at televised games.
And obviusly if some SP holders/ Corps miss games
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Don't really see city filling 24,000 even if they did stay up for a few years, wigans ground was full every home game in there first season up, it soon levelled out as it will for city.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "Don't really see city filling 24,000 even if they did stay up for a few years, wigans ground was full every home game in there first season up, it soon levelled out as it will for city.'"
Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently. |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently.'"
I don't think there is any chance that city could sell 40k tickets week in , week out. Maybe for the games against nal, liverpool and man u but not the rest |
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I dont think city could get 30k week in week out never mind 40.
leeds utd didnt sell out everyweek when they were in the premiership and i am of the opinion they were (and maybe stil are) a bigger club than city
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| Quote: Big Dave T "Disagree, City has a far wider catchment area for neutrals to go watch the game too. IMO they could fill 40k without a doubt consistently.'"
Not sure they'll get 40K consistently, but I'd reckon 25K will be a sellout for the forseeable future (as evidenced by the fact 19K odd passes were sold when there was still a chance they'd get relegated). |
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| Quote: CityFC "Probably more a case of that what you are hoping.
I prefare to see as much top flight sport based in our city as possible. Hosting games for the World Cup would be great for Kingston upon Hull.'"
Just saying how i see it. City were lucky very lucky to stay up, next season they will not start like they did this season so the odds are they will go down. |
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| Quote: redwhite&proud "not coming on here trolling and a bit o/t , but I read in the daily express today that paul duffen is in talks with HCC with regards to expanding the KC to 40k, I was wondering what you guys thought of this?
I was having a few drinks with a mate who is a hull fan and his thoughts were that if the extension was to be built then hull should move out.
there is no doubt that the kc is a fantastic ground and its not too bad as it is now when halfull but a 40k stadium with lets say your average gate of 14k sure is going to feel empty( a bit like hudds ground) and lacking in atmosphere.
we both came to a conclusion that , since hull would have a ground that is perhaps above their needs and kr have a ground that is somewhat lacking then would it not make sense to build a purpose built rugby ground for both clubs to share(not near c.p or the boulevard so as to be neutral). we both figured a ground capacity of say 18k with both seated and terraced areas would probably suffice for a new ground but with an option to use the kc for derby days and any other games that might significantly exceed the new grounds capacity.
I know there are probably many people on both sides of the river that would baulk at this idea but it I feel it would make financial sense to both clubs (I would presume you get a rent increase at the kc if expanded?)to share the costs of one ground. our only worry was that if the two clubs were to ground share then you might start to get the "well why not merge" question coming from the rfl?!(which I am totally against)
whats your thoughts? (if any!)'"
My thoughts are
The council build Hull City a new ground 40k
Hull FC and Hull KR share the KC...... (any new 18k not big enough for derby games) ....
Hull KR sells Craven Park and uses the dosh for whatever tickles their fancy |
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| Quote: Ian P "Still waiting for an answer
[sizeWho is going to pay for it .......................... ?[/size
Try working out how much city and SMC will make on the extra seats per season and set that against the cost of building ![]()
I was informed the club were given an estimate of around 7 million to build the extra stand so on your calculations after the first season it would have paid 5 million of that off.
I was also told the club were not going ahead with the building work until the club could manage to establish itself in this league anyway !
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| Quote: Neil HFC "Not sure they'll get 40K consistently, but I'd reckon 25K will be a sellout for the forseeable future (as evidenced by the fact 19K odd passes were sold when there was still a chance they'd get relegated).'"
They wont sell out every week but i reckon theyll get near to it for at least the first few seasons depending what kind of team they play and how they price the tickets. If i could get a ticket i'd definately pick and choose and go to some games, im sure others would too. |
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| Quote: mikegreen673 "My thoughts are
The council build Hull City a new ground 40k
Hull FC and Hull KR share the KC...... (any new 18k not big enough for derby games) ....
Hull KR sells Craven Park and uses the dosh for whatever tickles their fancy'"
You do know they dont own craven park, its owned by a consortium called gaingroup and HCC |
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| Quote: Big Dave T "They wont sell out every week but i reckon theyll get near to it for at least the first few seasons depending what kind of team they play and how they price the tickets. If i could get a ticket i'd definately pick and choose and go to some games, im sure others would too.'"
Thats True. The diiference with the Leeds analolgy aswell is that there are other clubs on Leeds doorstep and you wont switch clubs. Citys nearest are scunny ,york and grimsby the rest 500,000+ of east yorkshire is theres for the taking.
The £7mill quote is for a stand above the east like the west this would only add 5000 seats and more corporates. Think the new plans would need to drastically change the east stand to incorporate more possible 3 tiers so would cost many more pennies. the sort of money that city need to really spend on the team to make sure they stay up. the ground will be a medium term project. then there is the issue of the stadium being owned by a public body and a private company extending it. But these things are getting more and more common with Victoria Dock primary school being a prime example. |
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| Quote: Forever FC "Thats True. The diiference with the Leeds analolgy aswell is that there are other clubs on Leeds doorstep and you wont switch clubs. Citys nearest are scunny ,york and grimsby the rest 500,000+ of east yorkshire is theres for the taking.
The £7mill quote is for a stand above the east like the west this would only add 5000 seats and more corporates. Think the new plans would need to drastically change the east stand to incorporate more possible 3 tiers so would cost many more pennies. the sort of money that city need to really spend on the team to make sure they stay up. the ground will be a medium term project. then there is the issue of the stadium being owned by a public body and a private company extending it. But these things are getting more and more common with Victoria Dock primary school being a prime example.'" i read somewhere that if the added 2 rows to the east and south stand that would add another 7,000 seats iirc. |
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| Quote: Ian P "Still waiting for an answer
[sizeWho is going to pay for it .......................... ?[/size
Try working out how much city and SMC will make on the extra seats per season and set that against the cost of building ![]()
Although your calculator must be on the blink Ian that is irrelevant......
Do you work for our board Ian?? How incredibly short term you are thinking. Should Hull City stay in the premier league then you can add xxx number of years to your calculation 
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