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Quote: pmarrow "I just get the impression a lot of you on here think the failings of our team are a result of Radford personally telling the players to be as bad and lethargic. He has spoken numerous times in interviews about our lack of energy, that tells me it's not his wish for that to be the case.

We don't play expansive enough for my liking but I dont think we are terrible, I've being around the block enough times to know a pre season game with 20 plus players is not going to be a benchmark for your season.

Radford is under pressure and rightly so but I don't feel like all this gloom is helpful TBH the season hasn't even started, thats what I struggle with. What would you deem an acceptable start ? Because many have us as 0 - 4 before a ball is kicked, hardly supporting is it just adds more negative to a squad lacking confidence. That is our problem a lack of confidence, your not going to start playing like cas or saints after 11 losses, it takes time. Mind you id rather not play like them because its a proven fact throwing the ball about is no good when it comes to the business end. We know Radfords style when it goes right with a fully fit squad delivers.'"


On your 1st point regarding lack of energy, is that a players fault for not listening or the coaches fault for not energising or enthusing the team and getting his point across knowing this is a continual failing?

Secondly I also don't think we are terrible but I think we are boring and predictable. Yes Saints was only a friendly but I look at the system we play not the players available and our system has not evolved or changed. That was Saints first hit out also with a squad of 20 and they beat us comfortably. So whilst winning a friendly is not important the wider structure does concern me.

On your last point there is no such doom and gloom merely a concern. I'm not sure how we'll go come the start of the season but I'd like to be entertained and excited win or lose rather than just think I'd rather have watched paint dry for 80 minutes.
So yes I would like to play like Saints, Wigan, Cas, Leeds because at least they win LLS and grand finals. A cup win whilst fantastic isn't the be all and end all for a measure of success as even Cats won it last year and they were a terrible team who raised themselves for a cup game.

Radford's style as you call it, well what is it exactly? Without the personnel on the field to execute the biff and bash game we come unstuck.
I was a big advocate of Lee when he took the job but I'd like to see us evolve as a team and unfortunately we remain static for now.
I'll still be there first home game cheering us on regardless however.

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Quote: pmarrow "Fantastic contribution.

Maybe next time use your other half of a braincell to indulge in a debate.'"

I'm saving that one , for someone who deserves more than a couple of sentence response , not for your nonsense. It really his, where you get this stuff from

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The signing we thought we had in the bag has collapsed, sums it all up at the minute!

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Quote: Windy winger "The signing we thought we had in the bag has collapsed, sums it all up at the minute!'"
Who was that then? or is it a secret that only you knows about ?

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Quote: hull2524 "Who was that then? or is it a secret that only you knows about ?'"

I heard it was Abdul.

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Quote: Rubyred1 "I heard it was Abdul.'"
icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif don't say that some will believe it

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Quote: hull2524 "icon_lol.gif Sorry but did make me laugh. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: hull2524 "Who was that then? or is it a secret that only you knows about ?'"

If you read my previous post you’d know I said I didn’t have a name . Do keep up ...

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Quote: Windy winger "If you read my previous post you’d know I said I didn’t have a name . Do keep up ...'"

So, aint got a clue comment then?

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Quote: Rubyred1 "So, aint got a clue comment then?'"
correct

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Quote: Windy winger "The signing we thought we had in the bag has collapsed, sums it all up at the minute!'"


If it was Javid Bowen then thats a good thing, Michael Jennings is available if the price is right.

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Quote: hull2524 "correct'"

Seems to be a lot of people with trust issues on here , probably starts with spending to much time on here I guess .

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Quote: Tinkerman23 "I'm saving that one , for someone who deserves more than a couple of sentence response , not for your nonsense. It really his, where you get this stuff from'"


So in other words you can't come up with a response.

I guess it's easier to say nonsense then come up with a structured arguement.

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Quote: Bombed Out "On your 1st point regarding lack of energy, is that a players fault for not listening or the coaches fault for not energising or enthusing the team and getting his point across knowing this is a continual failing?

Secondly I also don't think we are terrible but I think we are boring and predictable. Yes Saints was only a friendly but I look at the system we play not the players available and our system has not evolved or changed. That was Saints first hit out also with a squad of 20 and they beat us comfortably. So whilst winning a friendly is not important the wider structure does concern me.

On your last point there is no such doom and gloom merely a concern. I'm not sure how we'll go come the start of the season but I'd like to be entertained and excited win or lose rather than just think I'd rather have watched paint dry for 80 minutes.
So yes I would like to play like Saints, Wigan, Cas, Leeds because at least they win LLS and grand finals. A cup win whilst fantastic isn't the be all and end all for a measure of success as even Cats won it last year and they were a terrible team who raised themselves for a cup game.

Radford's style as you call it, well what is it exactly? Without the personnel on the field to execute the biff and bash game we come unstuck.
I was a big advocate of Lee when he took the job but I'd like to see us evolve as a team and unfortunately we remain static for now.
I'll still be there first home game cheering us on regardless however.'"


I share and understand your concerns but I guess I am more patient to see things out, comparing us to Saints is a no go from the off considering they have played to that structure for 18 months. We wont match them after a couple of months thats for sure.

Energy is not something that is coached and if players can't get themselves up they need moving on IMO. Which is easier said then done.

I feel we are making out that we are worse then we are, we just need some wins on the board get some confidence back into the squad. Still think we are short of winning the league but we should make the play offs.

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Quote: pmarrow "I share and understand your concerns but I guess I am more patient to see things out, comparing us to Saints is a no go from the off considering they have played to that structure for 18 months. We wont match them after a couple of months thats for sure.

Energy is not something that is coached and if players can't get themselves up they need moving on IMO. Which is easier said then done.

I feel we are making out that we are worse then we are, we just need some wins on the board get some confidence back into the squad. Still think we are short of winning the league but we should make the play offs.'"


I'm not comparing us to Saints but why can't we be as good as.Yes they've played that structure for 18 months when a new coach came in and implemented that style. Five years down the line we are no nearer that style of play. They dispensed with Cunningham a legend at their club because they were not achieving the results and playing the right way, sentimentality didn't come into it, so we have no excuses.

Also Woolford at Hudds came in and rejuvenated a club near the bottom of the league and transformed their season so again proving not a player issue but rather a coaching and motivational issue.

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