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| Quote: bonaire "Kelly has an ongoing hamstring problem which is a concern.
My guess is rather than rush him back the club will leave him out till magic weekend'"
I reckon he will be out for 3 weeks ish.
Miloudi at 6 potentially? I think Connor personally with Tumi at centre but guess its an option
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| Kelly has been carrying the injury for a while. When hes been clear he is clearly not as quick as he should be
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| Quote: Dave K. "Match for match (swapping Rovers forLeigh we are on the same points).
Probably more injuries and disruption this year.
Must win the next 2 SL games'"
I think the best teams are losing less games this season than last so expect a higher number of points to make top 4. Add in our poor away form and 4 away matches in the middle 8s isnt a great proposition
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| Quote: bonaire "Kelly has an ongoing hamstring problem which is a concern.
My guess is rather than rush him back the club will leave him out till magic weekend'"
Depends on whether we've revised our ambitions. If we've given up on top 4 and want to put our eggs in the cup basket again I agree, but if we think top 4 is still a possibility I think we'll risk him if possible.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I think the best teams are losing less games this season than last so expect a higher number of points to make top 4. Add in our poor away form and 4 away matches in the middle 8s isnt a great proposition'"
You might be right, last year 4th was 26 points, Cas already on 16 with 12 games to go, so think 4th will be at least 28 points. So that's 7/10 wins. Going to tough, but need to be in touching distance at the split.
Good thing is that we have only 3 away games left, one neutral ground
and 6 home games. So fixtures stacked well in our favour particularly with our home form
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| Quote: bonaire "I know its old news but we certainly miss Watts.Our pack Taylor apart is weak and we are having to use Paea much more than envisaged as he was to be our regular impact prop off the bench.
We will never know what happened internally re Watts but from a playing point of view a huge loss to the team.
i just wonder whether Kelly got a get out of jail card because of Watts going.
You can imagine the fans reaction if Kelly had been sacked meaning the club effectively dismissed their two best players.'"
Is there scope to bring the lad from London in to our playing squad this year?
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| Steve Mascord tweeting there's a big pow wow in Leeds tomorrow involving representatives from clubs in all three tiers.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Is there scope to bring the lad from London in to our playing squad this year?'"
Been wondering about that. Since technically he is now a Hull player and simply on loan at London. That's my understanding anyway.
May be a loan deal where we don't have an option to call him back though, or perhaps part of the deal of actually signing him this early is that he has to spend the rest of the year at London.
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| Quote: Hasbag "Been wondering about that. Since technically he is now a Hull player and simply on loan at London. That's my understanding anyway.
May be a loan deal where we don't have an option to call him back though, or perhaps part of the deal of actually signing him this early is that he has to spend the rest of the year at London.'"
he didn't play in london's last game so maybe he's injured as well
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Is there scope to bring the lad from London in to our playing squad this year?'"
Guess it would depend on the cap for one, plus I believe Wire wanted to sign him immediately and London wanted to keep him for the year. Lets say London make the middle 8 they will want him playing but if they miss out then perhaps they would be more willing to let him come to us early as they wouldn't be playing for anything but then is it too much of an ask for him to step up so quickly.
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| Interesting one for me this. Was curious as to how we compared to last year in the like for like games, replacing Leigh with Rovers.
Huddersfield (H): 2017, W 14-10; 2018, W 38-12. Total points equal.
Wigan (A): 2017, W 22-20; 2018, L 24-10. Total 2 points down.
Castleford (A): 2017, L 24-22; 2018, L 28-18. Total 2 points down.
Warrington (H): 2017, W 34-10; 2018, W 21-12. Total 2 points down.
Leeds (A): 2017, L 10-7; 2018, L 20-16. Total 2 points down.
Salford (A): 2017, W 34-10; 2018, L 24-8. Total 4 points down.
Catalans (H): 2017, L 16-14; 2018, W 42-16. Total 2 points down.
Hull KR/Leigh (A): 2017, W 24-10; 2018, W 30-22. Total 2 points down.
Wakefield (H): 2017, W 40-18; 2018, W 27-26. Total 2 points down.
St Helens (A): 2017, L 19-12; 2018, L 26-12. Total 2 points down.
Widnes (A): 2017, W 33-22; 2018, W 39-20. Total 2 points down.
Leeds (H): 2017, L 52-24; 2018, W 19-18. Total points equal.
Catalans (A): 2017, L 23-18, 2018, L 25-24. Total points equal.
So when you look at that way, we're on track to match last year's points. We only have 1 of the top 5 left to play away from home, and last year we lost to Leigh at home and got spanked by Saints at magic...
Don't get me wrong. It'll be difficult. We had some great wins at home to Cas, Wigan and Saints last year and also got a point at Warrington. Just think we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with the doom and gloom, although the manner of the defeat in France was the most disappointing part for me.
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| might be a option, don't think its to much of an ask, play him 2 short stints, tell him catch the ball run hard as you can lol,
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| Quote: Faithful One "Interesting one for me this. Was curious as to how we compared to last year in the like for like games, replacing Leigh with Rovers.
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While I'd agree the season so far isn't a disaster, the idea was we'd kick on and improve not slip back towards mid table.
Instead we're looking more like 5th-7th and missing the top4 entirely. Still time to put things right, but its concerning that we don't correct our mistakes week in week out and have lost our way in areas we were previously strong such as defence.
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| Quote: UllFC "While I'd agree the season so far isn't a disaster, the idea was we'd kick on and improve not slip back towards mid table.
Instead we're looking more like 5th-7th and missing the top4 entirely. Still time to put things right, but its concerning that we don't correct our mistakes week in week out and have lost our way in areas we were previously strong such as defence.'"
What is a concern is reading Danny Houghtons thoughts in HDM where he says they have to learn and learn quickly and that they'd talked all week about getting dragged into the game that Catalan wanted to play yet still did it. They still aren't learning from the same poor errors they are making and dumb & needless penalties they are giving away every game, this season we are very poor in these 2 areas.
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| ...if all errors and penalties were "deliberate", then you may have a point.
Saints are top of the error count so far this season.
Errors of judgement is very difficult to manage.
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