Oddly enough some Wire fans used to say the same about Cullen. He was given about 3 years as well wasn't he. Boy have they gone backwards since he stepped down as he couldn't stand being part of a team with such a winning mentality.

Agar's had almost 3 years and he still isn't good enough.

I won't be posting on here if it is going to be one 'positive' and one 'negative' thread each week, it makes no sense and doesn't promote good discussion as out of context posts are just merged in and discussion doesn't flow properly.

In my opinion Richard Agar has to consider his future @ the club. It is not just one game as some one earlier stated. Mr Agar has been @ the club for a consider period & in my opinion, overall things have been going downhill.
From my observations more & more supporters are getting 'fed-up' & today's performance & result just compounds the situation.

Don't forget webster

Mr B is in a right stinking mood tonight, and he's a man of extreme patience and good nature (as he needs to be, having been married to me for 17+ years). Tonight is the first time I can remember him complaining about the money we've paid for our season passes and the fact we've arranged holidays and weekends around Hull FC. I'm not one of these who say "this is the worst/most boring FC team I've ever seen" because that's simply untrue, but when Mr B starts to complain, having gone to virtually every game in 2008 and 2009 without doing so, you have to question whether the collective FC supporters patience is wearing wafer-thin. Feels like we're approaching the end of our tether tbh and any Berrigan/Tansey/injury style excuses will not be acceptable.

I agree, more and more 'casual' fans are getting fed up with Agar, its gone beyond the message board moaners and the erratic Radio Humberside callers.

I also presume from the lack of updates about pass sales recently that we are down on last seasons total. I suppose we will see on Friday night how many spaces there are in the East/South stands compared to last year.

And also on a positive note paul at least our leader has shown our team how to tie their boot laces! lol Go on laugh you know you want to, but i do agree with your post the players have a lot to answer for too today!

Agree with that. Feel exactly the same

The thing is I am not an Agar fan, he has done better in terms of recruitment and performances last season but he still has it all to prove for me. That said the players made the mistakes today and not Agar, it suits people to blame Agar, it somehow makes everything his fault when in reality it runs deeper than that.

No argument here, I said when Smith was wobbling as the GB coach we should make a move and snap him up. he is the reason for their change in fortunes.

Noble is out of work, and is IMO of the same caliber as Smith. Just look at what he did last year with a Crusaders side that started the season in a new town, with no proper pre-season. You can also argue that Wigan are reaping the rewards of the work he did with their young players.

I'd have him tomorrow!

Agar, recruits, trains and then selects the players! I could accept a defeat if I could see us moving forward but this isn't the case.

I'd have Noble in a heartbeat. It staggers me sometimes how people turn their nose up at him, compared to what we've got currently there's no contest at all.

So Westerman missing Newton is Agar's fault?