Took 50 minutes for the lads to look like they're interested.

Well at least I gave Mr Murdock £6.99 to watch this crap rather than paying Adam Pearson to keep employing Radford.

Typical lacklustre display after a cup final

I honestly would of prefered the middle 8s, what the next 7 games are going to do for the fans motivation for next season could be damaging. At least the middle 8s wed of been competive and in my opinion pretty safe

Phil Clark has just said that we have got 30mins to show that we can be competitive. He'll be lucky we've been waiting most of the last two seasons.

At least the pressures off, nothing to worry about, plan for 2016

Embarrassing defence.

No dead rubbers the RFL said in this new structure, well looks like all of our super 8 fixtures will be dead rubbers because we've no chance of doing anything in the 8s.

Not going to jump on Radford's back, there are key players missing.

But, glaringly obvious that we are a million miles away from the top 4 in terms of attacking nowse.

All the commentators have pointed it out.

If next season isn't to end in the same bang average way as this one then something needs to change.

In the sporting context, pressures of wigan now

There are literally no benefits of playing in the middle eights.

If you want to improve you need to be playing against good sides. You play a good team every week in the super 8s. If Radford and the coaches are smart about it (another argument entirely) we will learn a lot. Sticking 50 past Sheffield or Fax doesn't help anyone. Not to mention the risk of relegation and the lower income.

Dont think they expected the 8th place team to be so e to be fair

some of the basics are just not there - the passing is shocking, especially from dummy half

Sorry double post

Don't disagree, the gulf in class was glaringly obvious in the Leeds cup game.