Shocking that our game has gone backwards despite record levels of money being pumped in. We have no world class players in the England team and most seem to have a lack of basic skills such as passing and positional play. How can the Australian system be so much better at producing skillful players?

In my opinion most of the Saints players have been poor throughout the world cup

Thats Sky Sports for you they gloss over any sport they have on and hype it up way to much.Glad ive got rid of it

They have a larger pool of talent to pick from.
Sport generally is more important to them, especially at school and youth level.
The way the game is played encourages skill over pure athleticism.

IMO.

The mentality is different in the countries at junior level.

In Australia Schools they are taught to be the best and being nothing but the best will do. In England its the taking part that counts and its ok to lose aslong as you've tried.

Glad i took the money and worked now....is it worth watching when i get in.


Thats sky sports also going now on monday......not wathing the convicts lift the trophy.

It should have stayed that way.

Agree with you saying Gardner shouldnt have played but i thought McGuire was our best today.

Couldnt believe it when at 1 point we had McGuire, Burrow, Pryce and Roby on the pitch at the same time.

We were playing East to West too much instead of playing straight and working it wide once the Kiwis compressed.

Dunno why but the fact Cullen always has to introduce himself to Eddie when he is in the studio giving his opinion makes me laugh.

We did look to go wide far too early though and the Kiwis just numbered up and stood watching what we were doing as it was simple to defend against, the 1 time we did put a decoy in we scored off of it when Gleeson went over.

If you like watching an error fest and some atrocious defending, yes.

because they dont coach the flare out of them half backs are told to take the line on and not just pass and time is spent one to one to get them ready were miles behind and thats with more kids playing than ever the rfl is hopeless

i disagree with this one,

a lot of the junior teams don't have full squads and some even struggle to put 13 out some weeks.

The player's who took the field today could'nt even catch a ball ,pass properly ,put a decent kick in or even tackle , All fundamental parts of basic Rugby what you get taught in schools and Academy's. That's not even going down the road of mentality and technique.
If any change come's from this debarcle then it needs to be aimed at the youngsters and the way we are coaching them .

So it was Stevo and Eddie's fault England played awful during the World Cup? Players picked on reputation is half the issue. I mean Ade Gardner, he's rubbish without Gidley laying tries on a plate for him...