Even their Second Rows know how to move the opposition defence about to create gaps and overlaps.

The last British backrower that had that skill was moved to Stand Off for GB (Sculthorpe)

Well if we dont kick to Gardner im going to support Rovers.

The guys awful, as was Wellens.

Thought McGuire played well.

Appalling performance, one or two can hold their heads high, but the others in shame, not willing to put bodies on line when needed, passing was awful to say the least, kicking game well and truly sh@te, appeared to be no plan, but hey everything will be ok when SL comes around, our so called best will be world beaters again, 'we're getting close to the aussies' comments again by Clarke, Stevo and Eddie, until we rid ourselves of the average overpaid overseas players and coaches and start developing our own youngsters then we'll stay way behind. Its not like we've only lost one game, we've lost 3 out of 4, really really pis*ed off.

Yes, we did have a poor overall World Cup, and players such as Wellens, Gardner, Burrow and Wilkin did have awful performances.

However I cant put all of the fault on the players who didnt perform well enough. Eddie and Stevo cream over any potential England player during the Super League season, and they make them out to be 'world class' which in turn lights the expectations of us, the English fans.

In fact, we were battered around the park by much better players from Australia and New Zealand and a lot of fans are dissapointed.

Eddie and Stevo, as the numpties that they are made out that our players were 'world class' and 'larger then life' and the truth hurts!

We are crap, but we just never realised it until the World Cup actually took place!

Shocking that our game has gone backwards despite record levels of money being pumped in. We have no world class players in the England team and most seem to have a lack of basic skills such as passing and positional play. How can the Australian system be so much better at producing skillful players?

In my opinion most of the Saints players have been poor throughout the world cup

Thats Sky Sports for you they gloss over any sport they have on and hype it up way to much.Glad ive got rid of it

They have a larger pool of talent to pick from.
Sport generally is more important to them, especially at school and youth level.
The way the game is played encourages skill over pure athleticism.

IMO.

The mentality is different in the countries at junior level.

In Australia Schools they are taught to be the best and being nothing but the best will do. In England its the taking part that counts and its ok to lose aslong as you've tried.

Glad i took the money and worked now....is it worth watching when i get in.


Thats sky sports also going now on monday......not wathing the convicts lift the trophy.

It should have stayed that way.

Agree with you saying Gardner shouldnt have played but i thought McGuire was our best today.

Couldnt believe it when at 1 point we had McGuire, Burrow, Pryce and Roby on the pitch at the same time.

We were playing East to West too much instead of playing straight and working it wide once the Kiwis compressed.