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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"I'm not basing any of my points on anything that the new government have done/said... Just my own opinions/observations!!'"
Then you might want to do a little investigating and find out what the facts are, because you've been way wide of the mark on just about everything.
And no - I'm not a Labour voter before you ask.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Before the banking crisis hit, Labour were spending roughly the same as the previous Tory government.
The gold thing has been dismissed as largely irrelevant by economists.'"
2 Billion pounds loss irrellevant !!!!!!
You are an ex Gordon Brown advisor and I claim my £5
I don't know about being suckered in by the spin from the present government,I'm surprised at how many are still suckered in by the last lot.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Amazing the number of folk who have been completely suckered by the current Governments spin and misdirection.'"
Nail, hammer and head come to mind.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Amazing the number of folk who have been completely suckered by the current Governments spin and misdirection.'"
....or even the last ones 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Then you might want to do a little investigating and find out what the facts are, because you've been way wide of the mark on just about everything.
And no - I'm not a Labour voter before you ask.'"
Right, so i haven't paid more tax year on year, and people haven't been cheating the benefit system and living the dream off taxpayers??
Sorry if i was WAY OFF but you're wrong!!!
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"Right, so i haven't paid more tax year on year, and people haven't been cheating the benefit system and living the dream off taxpayers??
Sorry if i was WAY OFF but you're wrong!!!'"
You're seriously over exaggerating this whole benefit cheats argument.
Yes, its a problem, but it always has been and always will be.
What you seem to be advocating is throwing the most vulnerable in society on the street just so there's no system to cheat.
I have a daughter that has Cerebral Palsy, without the system that exists, god knows what me and my partner would of done.
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| Quote FC DAZE="FC DAZE"2 Billion pounds loss irrellevant !!!!!!'"
Go read up on it.
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| Quote Gordon Gekko="Gordon Gekko"....or even the last ones
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You would have thought people would have learned, wouldn't you?
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08"Right, so i haven't paid more tax year on year, and people haven't been cheating the benefit system and living the dream off taxpayers??
Sorry if i was WAY OFF but you're wrong!!!'"
How much less tax are you paying now? For more or fewer public services?
People will always cheat. The amount lost through the benefits system is peanuts compared to the amount lost through tax avoidance and evasion. Somehow that never seems to generate as much bile.
You forgot to tell us what your alternative to having a welfare system is. I'd be interested to know if you have one that doesn't involve people dying.
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| Quote FC Wembley 08="FC Wembley 08":lol: Now that i agree with, it is opinions at the end of the day and that's why there's a vote... the majority opinion wins!!
All i know is, since Labour came to power, i've earned less and less and i've seen undeserving people get more and more off the back of my tax payments etc....
IMO The benefits system shouldn't be and never should've been put into place!! If you don't work, you don't get paid. If you have kids you can't afford to have, then tough.. This is the first area that needs changing, before redundancies!!!'"
What about IB claimants? Until I had to "go on the sick" as so many people like to call it, I had a full time job, worked a part-time job on a Saturday morning then worked on the turnstiles at the Boulevard on a Sunday. I now don't work because of my condition, I'm not lazy, I would love to be fit enough to be able to do those jobs again, but it will never happen, but in your eyes I shouldn't get anything even though I didn't chose to give up my jobs and paid tax on each of my jobs 
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