Did you see Joe Cator in that Boyes bin.

too similar to Fash.
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Funnily enough no as he's a young and upcoming signing, foolishly let go by Rovers.
He's not some 30+ prop releases by a SL rival, considered not good enough for them but yet some people suggest we sign them

So you can't tell the difference between a player at the early stages of their career and ones that aren't?
Either we trust to the players coming through or we continue down the line of spending too much on has beings as well as too much on quota players that often don't offer a great deal, our recruitment has been as much off as on for the last 7 years but it's the coaching that has let us down.
On paper we've had some of the strongest squads we've ever had yet not looked remotely like were going to win a GF and had our s handed to us with severe beatings.
Hopefully with some new coaching blood they can address the core problems and that we don't need more big names that take huge % of the cap or has beings to play some good rugby and be consistent at the same time.

If we sign a prop the standard of those two mentioned Jack Brown's gametime, I'd be very disappointed.

Props we have Bowden, Brown, Taylor, Sao, Satae, Fash and Masi.

Backrow we have Lane, Savlio, Ma'u and Cator

So I'd say the need for a backrower is more needed particularly if we are adding depth.

I’m sure I read somewhere,
our new coach identified, a new half, an outside back, and a middle player.

Can’t find the article now, hey ho time will tell, Griff can play back row as well, but he’s playing well at centre so keep him there.

Masi has to improve his standard, Jack Brown is nowhere near the standard of Remy Casty, and unfortunately Brad Fash never will be.

I was talking more about the likes of Battye and Kopczak.

Even then with Casty, there is a reason Catalans are letting him go, he will be on much more than Brown, so it's value for money on the cap, we already have 3 high earning props, do we want a 4th. Would Wigan or Saints sign Casty or looking to promote one of their youth players.

I've been really impressed with Brown, I don’t think he is far off, main issue is his defensive strength, but another off season could help with that. I'd rather play Brown than sign Casty personally.

Is ageism a thing in sport now?
You better warn Steve McNamara then, as he's released Moa and Casty because he has an ageing squad.
Or is it readily excepted in sport that at 34+ you are considered old?

We'll never know if our youngsters are good enough unless you give them a chance.
Brown has proven he's good enough and does not need wrapping in cotton wool.
Why would it be murdering Jack Brown to play regularly?
It's not done Partington, Smithies or Byrne any harm at Wigan has it? Who coincidentally released Flower because of age and the youngsters emergence.

You stifle these players development signing older released players and then what does that do for their confidence.
You'll never find the stars of tomorrow if you don't play them today.
This talk of signing older players is nonsense.

good post bombed out.

Conveniently forgetting Mitch Clarke & Brad Singleton.

Well we are looking for another middle according to the interview with our new coach, Jack is a great prospect, as the original conversation was about who we may bring in, Casty is available, and regarding salary he could be offered a deal which suits all, a one year deal perhaps.

Yes because they're 27 and 28 respectively.
So not conveniently forgotten just of no relevance..
Need any more straws to clutch at

No style of negativity at all from me or sticking the boot in.
I'm approaching the season with renewed optimism.
If you don't like people disagreeing with your championing of signing 34 years + props deemed not good enough for other clubs and released then don't post.
I merely disagree with your reasoning and think it's a pointless waste of cap space and restricts the development of our younger players.
If your happy to sign these older players then good on you but our club is not going to progress with that attitude.
Just my opinion of course.
I'd rather we go with Brown and blood other youngsters if they're considered good enough.
A 19 year old scored the winning try in the GF.
Good job he's not at Hull or you'd have him no where near the 1st team