Same way I say tomato - correctly.
Cheers. Wikipedia (not the most reliable source, I know), had Lineham, Green and Kent down as 2011 debuts. Or maybe it refers to the first year they got a squad number or something. I saw Kent play a couple of times (Wiki only credits him with seven games, iirc), and thought he looked promising. Lineham had played 20 times for York before joining, according to Wiki, and i’ve seen Rovers’ homegrown players’ credentials questioned for a lot less than that.
Bobby Tyson-Wilson doesn’t even have a Wiki page, as far as I can see.

Lots of player stats on this site.... eg Tom Lineham www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... mmary.html

Lots of player stats on this site.... eg Tom Lineham www.rugbyleagueproject.org/playe ... mmary.html

Amended list for Hull. 2012: Bowden (132), Green (12icon_cool.gif, Lineham (6icon_cool.gif*, Crooks (51), Kent (12), Cunningham (10), Jack Briscoe (1) 2013: Shaul (150), Hadley (83) 2014: Abdull (54), Harry Tyson-Wilson (1) 2015: Fash (55), Matongo (49), Logan (3icon_cool.gif, Turgut (30), Lancaster (7), Bobby Tyson-Wilson (2) 2016: Downs (20). * www.hullfc.com/news/2012-02-29-l ... and-whites

Amended list for Hull. 2012: Bowden (132), Green (12icon_cool.gif, Lineham (6icon_cool.gif*, Crooks (51), Kent (12), Cunningham (10), Jack Briscoe (1) 2013: Shaul (150), Hadley (83) 2014: Abdull (54), Harry Tyson-Wilson (1) 2015: Fash (55), Matongo (49), Logan (3icon_cool.gif, Turgut (30), Lancaster (7), Bobby Tyson-Wilson (2) 2016: Downs (20). * www.hullfc.com/news/2012-02-29-l ... and-whites

Lineham played for York but did at least one full season in our academy. We used to go and watch him quite a lot. There's no credentials to question there. If I pointed out that Westerman or Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook counted because they played for our academy - that would be questionable. Although I'm quite sure they're only decent players because of that fact! Didn't Watts play for either our or your academy too?

And as an aside, I thought Turgut was starting to look a real player just before Salford got rid. Which makes what's happened an even bigger tragedy.

In case anyone is wondering....



If you want to know the definition of Under 21's then look it up!

Ahhh, I had forgotten it was carried over or was adopted as part of the salary cap rules, having been dropped from the quota rules. Those rules are so opaque that I can’t really be bothered with them. Also the dispensations are not generally relevant to Rovers!

What I mean is that the details of how we bring players in don’t matter all that much to me, other than how well it works. If bringing in (cherry picking) players like Kristian Bell, Liam Watts, Will Oakes or Will Dagger works, i’m happy with it. Same goes for doing better more locally. And if it doesn’t work, why not? The RFL’s Byzantine system of incentives - it changes faster than clubs can adapt to it anyway. The suspicion being that is because it adapts to reward whatever situation certain clubs find themselves in - central contracts and all that.

Of course!
I think what is perhaps interesting there is the proportion of those that make it who come from community clubs outside Hull and District. Briscoe from Fev Lions, Crooks from Cas Lock Lane, Lineham from teams in York. Watts and Oakes being examples of us trying similar, and you have Bienek from London and the Badham (sp?) twins from Wales. Obviously there are plenty of Hull lads are in there too, and bringing youngsters from elsewhere doesn’t always work - e.g. Kristian Bell for us. But as a proportion of the overall intake, these more hand-picked talents seem to offer a good return. I understand there’s a need to fill out the squads and it makes sense to do that locally. For all that Blackbrook produced Graham and Roby, I suspect part of the reason Saints have so many from there is convenience.

Looking at our debutants from 2012 to 2016, with the exception of Oakes, I think they were all local lads, which suggests we weren’t spreading the net all that wide. After Lineham and Crooks, it was has been similar story for Hull in terms of relying on local lads.

Looks that way, good news that for us, wouldn't want him anywhere near the club.