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| Quote: Dave K. "Doubt it will be either of them with the wingers they have.
Probably Catalans or the Wolfpack'"
Naiqama to Saints is the latest. I guess to replace Ben Barba who is leaving before the cup quarter finals hopefully.
According to an anonymous editor on Wikipedia "The hard running back looks set to join super league giants Hull fc in the next few weeks" Seems legit.
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| Running back? We become an NFL team now?
Was hoping it was Joe Greenwood and not James Green.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Looks like Mini might be staying
Been a great signing but this season is one too far for me. Always been a slow starter to the seasons but normally picks up form as the pitches harden, Easter onwards. Not doing it at the moment, even on a reduced deal, with him taking a quota spot I wouldn’t resign him.
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| Quote: FC Callum "Been a great signing but this season is one too far for me. Always been a slow starter to the seasons but normally picks up form as the pitches harden, Easter onwards. Not doing it at the moment, even on a reduced deal, with him taking a quota spot I wouldn’t resign him.'"
I agree and I'd also question the signing of talanoa who will have spent much of the season injured by October. Time for us to freshen the squad up IMO
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| Even with arrival of Westerman think we still need to freshen up the pack so we can start dominating some of the other top teams up front. Someone like Josh Jones and a big prop from somewhere. Not sure the kid from London is ready to match up against the likes of Walmsley or Hill on a weekly basis. How Gareth can create some cap space will be interesting ...don't think Watts, Washbrook and prob Abdul will be enough cap. Maybe Mini or Manu along with Turgut! Would declaring Kelly as a marquee signing help (as don't fully understand this rule)?
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| Quote: irregularfella "Even with arrival of Westerman think we still need to freshen up the pack so we can start dominating some of the other top teams up front. Someone like Josh Jones and a big prop from somewhere. Not sure the kid from London is ready to match up against the likes of Walmsley or Hill on a weekly basis. How Gareth can create some cap space will be interesting ...don't think Watts, Washbrook and prob Abdul will be enough cap. Maybe Mini or Manu along with Turgut! Would declaring Kelly as a marquee signing help (as don't fully understand this rule)?'"
If you want to build a pack to dominate the top teams then getting rid of Manu isn't the way. We could afford to lose Mini I think, he's losing his effectiveness this season, but Manu is still such a huge part of what makes our pack so big and strong.
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| Quote: Hasbag "If you want to build a pack to dominate the top teams then getting rid of Manu isn't the way. We could afford to lose Mini I think, he's losing his effectiveness this season, but Manu is still such a huge part of what makes our pack so big and strong.'"
I agree it’s mini we need to be upgrading on for next season . Need players like Manu , but to replace mini we need a running back rower who breaks tackles and scores try’s . Someone like whitehead or currie type we need . Who though is another question!
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| Hull FC exclusive in League Weekly this weekend apparently.
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| tough recruitment times atm when we are up against the nrl, throw in the toronto team who aren't short of a penny either could explain why we are offering mini a new contract
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| retaining talanoa shows lack of ambition, yes he's scored a few tries but then so would most wingers in SL and frankly the championship in those positions.
Mini I'm torn on, he does more than just run the line, he also backs up at dummy half on occasion and can pass the ball, I think people will realise if/when he goes what big boots he's left behind to fill, more so than Ellis going IMHO.
If he's on a reduced contract it's maybe acceptable but it's basically what cap space do we have to get a decent replacement.
I think Lane will obviously continue to get better and looks a very decent prospect, we already know what an absolute grafter Fash is, for me if Washbrook is retained it'd be shambolic, he is the one player who stunts the progress of Litten and others by being used as a stop gap player, does he have experience, yes but honestly he simply isn't good enough and as I said he gets used instead of other squad players who actually play in the positions he's put in.
Litten absolutely needs to be considered to rotate Houghton because Houghton will not last forever and potentially get more injuries on the back of the workload he has to do as he gets older (30 in 4 months time) it also stunts Houghton's effectiveness playing 80 all the time.
In some ways it would have been nice to have seen Miloudi get a crack at the 6 position and if he'd be good enough to replace Kelly in which case we would have had a shed load of cash to upgrade on Mini. I'm quite happy to retain Green/Bowden, they aren't going to be on a heap load of cash and both offer a decent input for what they are which is good rotations off the bench though both have been a little bit off the pace this season compared to previous years, if more come through though and certainly with Lane/fash/london kid and potentially with Litten on the bench they certainly need to be looking over their shoulders and showing their worth and indeed Turgut to get another go to also prove whether he can raise to the challenge.
I'd also include Manu in that bracket of dropped off from 2016/17 in terms of performance but would be worth another year though depends on whether he wants 2 years or nothing.
Hadley has been outstanding, even from his first season I thought he was going to be a very good player and for me he has bound the team together at times in the way he has played.
On the face of it, it looks like JA is going to be leaving/not offered a contract which is a bloody shame.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "retaining talanoa shows lack of ambition, yes he's scored a few tries but then so would most wingers in SL and frankly the championship in those positions.
Mini I'm torn on, he does more than just run the line, he also backs up at dummy half on occasion and can pass the ball, I think people will realise if/when he goes what big boots he's left behind to fill, more so than Ellis going IMHO.
If he's on a reduced contract it's maybe acceptable but it's basically what cap space do we have to get a decent replacement.
I think Lane will obviously continue to get better and looks a very decent prospect, we already know what an absolute grafter Fash is, for me if Washbrook is retained it'd be shambolic, he is the one player who stunts the progress of Litten and others by being used as a stop gap player, does he have experience, yes but honestly he simply isn't good enough and as I said he gets used instead of other squad players who actually play in the positions he's put in.
Litten absolutely needs to be considered to rotate Houghton because Houghton will not last forever and potentially get more injuries on the back of the workload he has to do as he gets older (30 in 4 months time) it also stunts Houghton's effectiveness playing 80 all the time.
In some ways it would have been nice to have seen Miloudi get a crack at the 6 position and if he'd be good enough to replace Kelly in which case we would have had a shed load of cash to upgrade on Mini. I'm quite happy to retain Green/Bowden, they aren't going to be on a heap load of cash and both offer a decent input for what they are which is good rotations off the bench though both have been a little bit off the pace this season compared to previous years, if more come through though and certainly with Lane/fash/london kid and potentially with Litten on the bench they certainly need to be looking over their shoulders and showing their worth and indeed Turgut to get another go to also prove whether he can raise to the challenge.
I'd also include Manu in that bracket of dropped off from 2016/17 in terms of performance but would be worth another year though depends on whether he wants 2 years or nothing.
Hadley has been outstanding, even from his first season I thought he was going to be a very good player and for me he has bound the team together at times in the way he has played.
On the face of it, it looks like JA is going to be leaving/not offered a contract which is a bloody shame.'"
Abdul, green and Bowden are all contracted for next year
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| This season is going to fizzle out with us winning nothing.
In my opinion we need a lot of refreshing.
It looks like Minichello and Talanoa will get contracts for next season but i would release both players together with Washbrook,Abdull,Turgut and Osborne.
The fact that Turgut was not recalled from Featherstone given our injury crisis shows how far down the pecking line he is now.
Now Westerman is back Abdull would get very little game time so we could try and get a fee for him.
I just hope we dont sit back and think we have a strong enough squad for next season because we dont and 2019 could be a very average season
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| Quote: bonaire "This season is going to fizzle out with us winning nothing.
In my opinion we need a lot of refreshing.
It looks like Minichello and Talanoa will get contracts for next season but i would release both players together with Washbrook,Abdull,Turgut and Osborne.
The fact that Turgut was not recalled from Featherstone given our injury crisis shows how far down the pecking line he is now.
Now Westerman is back Abdull would get very little game time so we could try and get a fee for him.
I just hope we dont sit back and think we have a strong enough squad for next season because we dont and 2019 could be a very average season'"
This seasons never really got going. I said before the season that the oz trip would cause us problems and it did with injuries and the travel and since then we've had a catalogue of injuries to our better players, sending offs and some really poor performances in there too.
If we could get our best 17 out most weeks we'd be ok but we've never been near doing that this year.
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| Turgut didn't play for Featherstone today.
I'd keep mini, he's still performing to a high standard, and playing more minutes than maybe he should at the moment because of injuries to other players.
I'm surprised how many people are writing him off.
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