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Quote: ccs "... can we cancel our home game against saints, I don't think I can cope with any more of AS108's ramblings.'"

I'll second that, we have enough of "our own" posting tripe without AS108 spouting ruccish too.

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Quote: AS108 "I disagree, he still is. Near on 50 tackles and 100 metres every game for someone who’s only got a few years left is phenomenal. Houghton is a good player, very good at times but every pro/ex-pro is only complimentary of Roby. Michael Shelton said he was the best players he’s ever played with and called him a machine. Houghton definitely has never been at the level of Roby. Also I wouldn’t say they are that different, they both play 80 mins most of the time, they both put in 40+ tackles a game. If anything I’d say they’re quite similar.

As for the part in bold, for the last time, I am not saying Roby is world class based on him being chosen, obviously if that was the case then every player at the World Cup would be. I am saying he’s world class based on what I’ve seen throughout his career. Also, I’m saying that the fact that he gets chosen over Houghton regularly shows how he’s seen as better than him. That is literally a fact. His performances at the World Cup showed he’s still world class, he outshone Hodgson and was one of our best players. Roby is a considerable amount better than Houghton and that’s not me saying Houghton isn’t a quality player because he is.'"

So what the are you going on about it for????

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Quote: Hasbag "John Bateman is a better left centre than Mark Percival. Surely you agree?'"


Wayne Bennett and his assistants obviously thought so, I personally would disagree but at least Percival did get in the squad and play.

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Quote: AS108 "Wayne Bennett and his assistants obviously thought so, I personally would disagree but at least Percival did get in the squad and play.'"

And you do realise that a lot of Hull fans would also "personally disagree" that Roby is better than Houghton?

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Quote: Hasbag "And you do realise that a lot of Hull fans would also "personally disagree" that Roby is better than Houghton?'"


Exactly, Hull fans would. If you were to go and ask every neutral in the country who’s better then at least 85% would say Roby. Percival did actually get in the England squad yet Houghton didn’t and two players did before him. It’s genuinely concerning that Houghton vs Roby is even a debate. Both have played in quite poor sides, Roby has always stood out, Houghton only in the last few years where Hull have been better as a team. Not to mention Roby has 5 dream team appearances and a Harry Sunderland trophy.

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Quote: AS108 "Exactly, Hull fans would. If you were to go and ask every neutral in the country who’s better then at least 85% would say Roby. Percival did actually get in the England squad yet Houghton didn’t and two players did before him. It’s genuinely concerning that Houghton vs Roby is even a debate. Both have played in quite poor sides, Roby has always stood out, Houghton only in the last few years where Hull have been better as a team. Not to mention Roby has 5 dream team appearances and a Harry Sunderland trophy.'"

yawn, we get it, a St's fan prefers a St's player

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Quote: Raggytash "Utter nonsense yet again.

Clearly Ben Barba is World Class. He's currently the best player in the SL. If he's not World Class, then our entire competition is devoid of World Class players. Which is a ridiculous thing to believe. So what he's been behind Slater in the pecking order? That means nothing. In your even more moronic third paragraph, you contradict your own argument saying that it's only because of an error in selection that Houghton didn't play. How is that any different to Barba not getting selected?

And as for Hodgson being a "plodder/error strewn type", words fails me. You constantly reach unsurpassed heights of stupidity.

Roby proved yet again that he was the best hooker in our competition as far as I'm concerned. I think it's only partisan, blinkered support that could claim otherwise. Which we've always been guilty of to be honest. I think we have some great professionals that compliment our overseas players, but I don't think we have an English player that is the best in his position.'"

IN YOUR opinion he's world class, he isn't the best FB in SL over the last 5 years, he's not the best player in SL this season either.
YOU said there were no world class players, i haven't.
My third paragraph doesn't contradict as i haven't said Houghton is world class.
Clearly your rant is far more moronic given you can't read nor work out a basic concept or three icon_lol.gif
Hodgson nor Clarke have done anything of note in an England shirt, massively off top interational level.
Get back under your bridge, you're clueless sonshine icon_ass.gif

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "IN YOUR opinion he's world class, he isn't the best FB in SL over the last 5 years, he's not the best player in SL this season either.
YOU said there were no world class players, i haven't.
My third paragraph doesn't contradict as i haven't said Houghton is world class.
Clearly your rant is far more moronic given you can't read nor work out a basic concept or three
In most people’s eyes he is world class and he definitely is the best player in SL and the best FB over the last 5 years. Go on then, who is better than him in SL? Whilst your at it which FB over the last 5 years has been better?

By saying Barba isn’t world class then you are saying there are no world class players in SL. The opinion that Houghton is better than Roby is bad enough but saying Barba isn’t world class is insane.

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Quote: AS108 "In most people’s eyes he is world class and he definitely is the best player in SL and the best FB over the last 5 years. Go on then, who is better than him in SL? Whilst your at it which FB over the last 5 years has been better?

By saying Barba isn’t world class then you are saying there are no world class players in SL. The opinion that Houghton is better than Roby is bad enough but saying Barba isn’t world class is insane.'"

if he (Barba), is "World Class" why isn't he playing in the NRL and first choice to play for his country?

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Quote: AS108 "In most people’s eyes he is world class and he definitely is the best player in SL and the best FB over the last 5 years. Go on then, who is better than him in SL? Whilst your at it which FB over the last 5 years has been better

By saying Barba isn’t world class then you are saying there are no world class players in SL. The opinion that Houghton is better than Roby is bad enough but saying Barba isn’t world class is insane.'"

Roby! world class that lad

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Robys better than Houghton and Barbas better than shaul. Sneyd is better than richardson and kelly is better than whoever will be at stand off. Our 3/4 are better than saints imo and forwards pretty even so if we play well we should be in with a big shout if winning it. Walmsley is a massive loss for them and more or less evens out watts as a loss to us.

We've proven in the last couple if years were better than saints if we play to our potential but the problem is we rarely seem to

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Confident we will get a result tomorrow. Dont believe the hype just because they have strolled past a few whipping boys. Leeds outplayed them. Wigan game could have gone either way. Without Walmsley they just don't have the firepower to cause us enough problems. As long as we are disciplined and don't cough up too much ball in our own half we will win. Roby is great, Barba is great, Thompson is playing really well, Percival is capable. The rest of the team is nothing to write home about at all.

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Roby's past it now, has been for the last 3 years. Never was world class, you can only claim to be if you go to the NRL otherwise its like saying a Glasgow Rangers player is. Cam Smith has been far and away the best for 10 years at least.

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Quote: Jake the Peg "Robys better than Houghton and Barbas better than shaul. Sneyd is better than richardson and kelly is better than whoever will be at stand off. Our 3/4 are better than saints imo and forwards pretty even so if we play well we should be in with a big shout if winning it. Walmsley is a massive loss for them and more or less evens out watts as a loss to us.

We've proven in the last couple if years were better than saints if we play to our potential but the problem is we rarely seem to'"


Bang on the money IMO

Roby me and the lads were talking about last week, and we all pretty much agreed he has been the standout hooker for many years. Houghton is great and I love him, but Roby is better.

I am going anyway, and I reckon we will get beat by 10, but we have a chance that's for sure

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One man team are the Saints, and that man will more than likely be gone next year, possibly this season, if his penchant for drug abuse returns.

Danny Houghton for me, years younger. Wouldn’t swap for the ageing James Roby

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