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| Daniel anderson, proven winner...other than that,id take powell, hands down, smith is a dinosaur, and i wouldnt want him, justin morgan could be within a shout if wee need a new coach tho...
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| Quote: berro's best mate "Daniel anderson, proven winner...other than that,id take powell, hands down, smith is a dinosaur, and i wouldnt want him, justin morgan could be within a shout if wee need a new coach tho...'"
If smith is a dinosaur does that make wayne bennett a fossil?
I'd take smith in a heartbeat. He's so far ahead of where radfrod will ever be it's not even measurable. We need someone like him to come in and start the ball rolling for a year or two and then let someone else come in and take the reigns
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "If smith is a dinosaur does that make wayne bennett a fossil?
I'd take smith in a heartbeat. He's so far ahead of where radfrod will ever be it's not even measurable. We need someone like him to come in and start the ball rolling for a year or two and then let someone else come in and take the reigns'"
Differance between smith and bennett, is multiple premiershhips, league titles, world club titles, state of origin titles, smiths done none, hence why hes at the worst team in the league coaching and bennets still at the top of his game, currently sat at the top of the telstra nrl ladder
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| Quote: berro's best mate "Differance between smith and bennett, is multiple premiershhips, league titles, world club titles, state of origin titles, smiths done none, hence why hes at the worst team in the league coaching and bennets still at the top of his game, currently sat at the top of the telstra nrl ladder
Trophies won is irrelevant. Where we're at is that we need someone with experience to come in and put in place the systems, processes and structures that the club needs as a springboard to improve. radford never had a chance of being able to do it as he hasn't got the experience. smith has, simple as. If you can't see what the club needs then you're as myopic as pearson
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "Trophies won is irrelevant. Where we're at is that we need someone with experience to come in and put in place the systems, processes and structures that the club needs as a springboard to improve. radford never had a chance of being able to do it as he hasn't got the experience. smith has, simple as. If you can't see what the club needs then you're as myopic as pearson'"
I do agree with what your saying BUT, we need to get away with this "smith is god" garbage, he did well for fc 25 years ago, yes, 25 years ago!!! The game has moved on significantly since those days, im not bagging his coaching abilities, but the supporters are beginning to sound like newcastle fans regarding keegan.... if the hits the fan, straight away, everyones like, get smith in...... please, the mans been on the scrapheap in the nrl for a whille now, known as a perennial loser..... harsh but facts dont lie....
I do agree we need experiance, but as with pryce and minichello, they do well for 2 years then were back to square one......needing another replacement, we as a club dont seem to have much foresight when it comes to descions like this........signing bang average joe such as michaels springs to mind, but . we need an experienced coach, preferably with super league experience who we can see having the job for 5 years or so.... getting smith in for 2 years does bugger all in my opinion....... and as ive stated, powell, justin morgan daniel anderson, tick all them boxes.....
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| Quote: berro's best mate "I do agree with what your saying BUT, we need to get away with this "smith is god" garbage, he did well for fc 25 years ago, yes, 25 years ago!!! The game has moved on significantly since those days, im not bagging his coaching abilities, but the supporters are beginning to sound like newcastle fans regarding keegan.... if the poop hits the fan, straight away, everyones like, get smith in...... please, the mans been on the scrapheap in the nrl for a whille now, known as a perennial loser..... harsh but facts dont lie....
I do agree we need experiance, but as with pryce and minichello, they do well for 2 years then were back to square one......needing another replacement, we as a club dont seem to have much foresight when it comes to descions like this........signing bang average joe such as michaels springs to mind, but . we need an experienced coach, preferably with super league experience who we can see having the job for 5 years or so.... getting smith in for 2 years does bugger all in my opinion....... and as ive stated, powell, justin morgan daniel anderson, tick all them boxes.....'"
powell would never leave cas for us and neither anderson or morgan have any desire to coach in the UK again as far as I'm aware. In fact Anderson has been out of coaching for much longer than brian smith. smith is no coaching god but he's much, much better than any of the realistic alternatives we seem to have
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| I cant argue that smith would be better than radders no doubt, but the man is no mesiah.... ask the roosters about his time there.. did well at the start but got sacked after a disastrous 2012 campaign......and hasnt coached since in the nrl,,.........says it all to me, if they have no faith in his coaching abilities, then why should we ??
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| Quote: berro's best mate "I cant argue that smith would be better than radders no doubt, but the man is no mesiah.... ask the roosters about his time there.. did well at the start but got sacked after a disastrous 2012 campaign......and hasnt coached since in the nrl,,.........says it all to me, if they have no faith in his coaching abilities, then why should we ??'"
Isn't the point that Jakes making that he's possibly the best viable option? Not that he's the best coach in the world.
Realistically, who could we get in that's better than Smith?
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| Quote: Doom&Gloom Merchant "Isn't the point that Jakes making that he's possibly the best viable option? Not that he's the best coach in the world.
Realistically, who could we get in that's better than Smith?'"
No one with experience. We could always go for an untried assistant again but it hasn't worked the last 4 times so no reason to suspect it will the next
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "No one with experience. We could always go for an untried assistant again but it hasn't worked the last 4 times so no reason to suspect it will the next'"
You can also see the improvement in Wakefield over the few weeks Smith has been there. Their upturn in performances is no coincidence.
Whereas there has been no improvement in us in all the time Radford has been our head coach.
Which says it all.
As Smith has said he and Wakefield are a perfect fit.
A team needing improvement and a coach and Smith to rediscover his passion for coaching and to see if he's still got it.
Yes Smith is not the long term answer but for putting in place a solid foundation and such a huge improvement over Radford it's unmeasurable I'd take Smith in a heartbeat if only our owner could see what's in front of his nose.
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| We are not going to recruit a top coach. The owner wont pay what's needed and no-one who has a decent job will leave it to come to Hull? Why would they? Brian Smith is no messiah but he would be an upgrade on Radford. I will be interested to see how they both do between now and the end of the season because nothing will happen before then. Despite his loyalty to Radford, subject to where and how we finish, the owner may have to change the coach if he wants to sell any season passes.
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| Quote: Diogenes "We are not going to recruit a top coach. The owner wont pay what's needed and no-one who has a decent job will leave it to come to Hull? Why would they? Brian Smith is no messiah but he would be an upgrade on Radford. I will be interested to see how they both do between now and the end of the season because nothing will happen before then. Despite his loyalty to Radford, subject to where and how we finish, the owner WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO BRING IN A NEW COACH if he wants to sell any season passes.'"
Amended to reflect reality.
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Haven't had a dream in a long time
see, the life I've had
can make a good man bad
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| Quote: His Bobness "Haven't had a dream in a long time
see, the life I've had
can make a good man bad
So please please please
let me, let me, let me
let me get what I want
this time'"
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