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Quote: Chris28 "I'd be interested to know which university Steve got his law degree from.'"


The same one as the members of the jury did.

Those who actually have law degrees were prepared to defend him from the allegations made.( It seems okay for the CPS to support in court an individual who broke the laws of the land and had controlled drugs in her system despite doing everything they can to save money and NOT proceed in cases where some witnesses have previous convictions which are not so serious.)

cod'head wrote - Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century

Of course it is.That is why the WAG's are rushing away in their droves.

Out of thousands of soccer players over the past 5 years through their clubs scattered around the nation only Marlon King and Ched Evans have made the news for their actions.Please add to the list of all the people steeped in misogyny - or can I just accept that Evans was an easy target, and an easy conviction,and the general public are beyond ridiculous?

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Quote: Angelic Cynic "The same one as the members of the jury did.

Those who actually have law degrees were prepared to defend him from the allegations made.( It seems okay for the CPS to support in court an individual who broke the laws of the land and had controlled drugs in her system despite doing everything they can to save money and NOT proceed in cases where some witnesses have previous convictions which are not so serious.)

cod'head wrote - Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century

Of course it is.That is why the WAG's are rushing away in their droves.

Out of thousands of soccer players over the past 5 years through their clubs scattered around the nation only Marlon King and Ched Evans have made the news for their actions.Please add to the list of all the people steeped in misogyny - or can I just accept that Evans was an easy target, and an easy conviction,and the general public are beyond ridiculous?

There is one decent bloke out there - rlHererl'"

had drugs in her system so it was her fault she was raped?

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Quote: Angelic Cynic "The same one as the members of the jury did.

Those who actually have law degrees were prepared to defend him from the allegations made.( It seems okay for the CPS to support in court an individual who broke the laws of the land and had controlled drugs in her system despite doing everything they can to save money and NOT proceed in cases where some witnesses have previous convictions which are not so serious.)

cod'head wrote - Much of the game of professional soccer is still steeped in misogyny, it's high time they dragged themselves into the 21st century

Of course it is.That is why the WAG's are rushing away in their droves.

Out of thousands of soccer players over the past 5 years through their clubs scattered around the nation only Marlon King and Ched Evans have made the news for their actions.Please add to the list of all the people steeped in misogyny - or can I just accept that Evans was an easy target, and an easy conviction,and the general public are beyond ridiculous?

There is one decent bloke out there - rlHererl'"


Are you for real. Those with Law Degrees defended the killers of Lee Rigby. They defended Peter Sutcliffe, they defended anyone who has gone through a court process. Its called a fair judicial system. Without it it is liable to abuse on a large scale.
The fact that she had drugs, drink etc in her system does not make her fair game for abuse. I may well be reading too much into your comments and if I am I apologies but having read it several times I think you are treading on decidedly dodgy ground. In your world any lady drunk on a street in Hull on Friday night (or any other time of the day, or any other place in the world) is open to abuse. Then if they are abused the CPS, Police, courts etc should simply say unlucky lady, you got what you deserved.

As for your list I'll raise your two and give you Terry, Giggs, though I'd argue Coddy is being a little over dramatic, but it does have issues as does all sport. Golf and their no women policy (in some parts) being a main one. But then the moral standard in this country is supposedly set by the Church. Lets leave it there.

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Quote: Angelic Cynic "The same one as the members of the jury did. '"


The difference being, of course, that Steve Bruce heard and saw all the evidence in court and the jury didn't...

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Quote: Chris28 "The difference being, of course, that Steve Bruce heard and saw all the evidence in court and the jury didn't...'"


Also, the jury's daughter's are best mates with Evan's girlfriend, whereas Bruce's family obviously have no connections whatsoever and made his comments free from all bias or influence......

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Quote: WormInHand "Well, quite. But the desire to enter into rehabilitation has to be there with the individual, otherwise it will fail. Ask any recovering drug addict, alcoholic or, indeed, released prisoner who has no intention of returning to gaol.

But Evans believes he is innocent. Therefore he doesn't recognise the need for rehabilitation. How can you recover from a crime you're accused of perpetuating if you don't accept a crime has been committed?'"

my response was with regard to rehabilitation in general not specifically to Evans. even if he maintains his innocence he could well be rehabilitated in so far as not being a sloth of a human being. doing the dirty on his partner and picking up crack-head sluts..on that front I'm sure he has learnt a very hard life lesson, one he will regret for the rest of his life.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "my response was with regard to rehabilitation in general not specifically to Evans. even if he maintains his innocence he could well be rehabilitated in so far as not being a sloth of a human being. doing the dirty on his partner and picking up crack-head sluts..on that front I'm sure he has learnt a very hard life lesson, one he will regret for the rest of his life.'"


You might want to edit part of your post.

Rehabilitation does not necessarily mean a return to the offender's previous profession as swiftly as possible. I have already stated that I hope Evans is receiving counselling because I reckon he will be needing it. Instead of Gordon Taylor reverting to his "rent-a-gob[is[/ihite" default position, perhaps he would be better employed using the PFA's resource to ensure Evans is adequately counselled.

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