I see what your saying but here's another thought...... Wouldn't we receive some compensation on our lease contract? To be honest I don't know any sort of figures what we pay but do know we would have to be payed off, would we be talking a serious amount?

Oh come on its a general feeling that has been around the club for years. Everyone from the coach to the players to the fans expects us to just turn up at most games against the lesser fancied teams and we'll just walk it. That's one of the reasons why were so ! Look at the team now. Throws the all around a bit but put no ground work in at all. They just expect other teams to part like the red sea.

The club is a joke and imo getting back to being a community could be achieved in our own smaller ground. The KC is possibly now a massive hinderence to any progress. Players probably think they've reached the big time just because they play in it (or that's how it seems) even if its now less than half empty for the majority of games these days

MASSIVE MASIVE changes are needed at this club from top to bottom if its ever going to achieve anything in the near, medium or even long term future

How is that people thinking we are better than everyone else?

Oh shut up you boring 2@

I disagree with your interpretation.

Our fans have experienced some success in relative terms over the last decade - a Challenge Cup win, 4 major finals, making the play-offs in the years that didn't involve Agar. To get close to silverware of itself creates optimism that we're not miles off. Add in the fact we have been in better shape financially than several clubs in the competition, and have one of the largest fanbases, there is a justifiable basis for optimism in the medium term. I suggest you take a look back at some of the pre season threads about expectations however as you seem to be claiming an element of arrogance in our fanbase which isn't ubiquitous. How many posters on here, for example, as a % of the total, predicted a top 2, or even top 4 finish? You suggest it's a majority. I disagree.

You're saying Rovers are a real community club, and we are not. How do you define that? Bringing local lads through the academy into first team? There's evidence FC do a better job of this currently. Hours in local schools? I think we do this quite well, but if you've evidence Rovers do more of this, I'm happy to be proven wrong. The Hull FC Community Foundation seems at least as good as the Rovers one in terms of learning/training projects, supporting health/education work, and reportedly reaches 50,000 people a year. You can compare the community sections on each website if you are interested in learning more.

I don't disagree that a smaller ground would create a better atmosphere on matchday, but that doesn't generate a "community". In reality a ground is used 13 times a year; the loss of the Alliance competition means the opportunity to engage with the club on a frequent basis is less than it's ever been. Fans' connections to the club are driven as much now through social media as they used to be through regular attendance for reserve games, and that's a challenge for every club in my opinion.

Fc have a presence in Sirius school every day and the school has just been awarded outstanding status bu ofstead and the nucleus of our u-16 and u-19s have come from Sirius.We have brought through Shaul,Lineham,Crooks,Kent,Hadley,Bowden,Green all to 1st team,something our neighbours can only dream of doing.

oh here she is the fans / clubs apologist ,she disagrees with someone who doesnt sing from the FC hymn sheet !!

just because Seb isnt daft enough to keep throwing good money after bad and has a different opinion he gets dogs abuse or called a 2@

the fanbase is good and therein for me lies the problem for going with the cheap option for the last few years the club know that fc apologists and black and white glasses wearing supporters like you will just put up with tripe because i support the club through thick and thin blah blah blah,i am 42 and have gone home and away for years however before you check boring zzz i havent gone for a while although i am going to Catalans in June
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Willerby toilets?

People around here have voted against a purpose built cycle dome for Costello so a stadium on there would go down a bomb .

So that's what that 1" diameter hole is for.

Don't think any of them players came through Sirius and most of them did not come through the normal pathway.

Apart from a few exceptions I do not think we will produce much talent via Sirius route. Eggs mainly in one basket approach does not work

I think a 16k ground would be great for Hull. It would definitely intensify the atmosphere when you are down at your average gate of around 10k but also allow for the big gates. I think playing at the KC has run it's course, and has lost Hull FC it's identity as a club. It would go a long way to re-establishing that, I think, anyway.