you must not have been around in the sixties and seventies then ,because youve never had a team as good as the wakefield trinity team of the 1960s ever.

Proof positive.

Often had better teams than you in SL, you just can't accept we did it on half the money and there is your problem.

You've finished above us three times in fifteen seasons (twice with Agar as Hull coach). Hardly suggests that you've 'often' had a better team.

No. No you haven't.

But you carry on thinking that if it makes you feel good.

I'm sure that's true but I'm only 45 so was well before my time

come on Kosh, don't be mean. vastman is always right, he's currently sat in Wakeys new stadium watching Grand Final contenders.

Like you are

Yes, yes I have. More to the point I've watched teams who bye and large were put together for peanuts perform well above what the "experts" expected. Also in Solomona, Ellis and Brough to name a few we have watched players who have delivered on the field rather than steal money on reputation.

Come on man, Hull are the greatest under achievers in SL history. Every year huge amounts of cash paid out to one big name after another with the promise of glory rarely delivered.

What you got, 1 CCup, 1 CCup runners up and one SLGF runners up for all that boasting. We aren't that far behind relatively speaking - a linesman's flag away from Old Trafford in 2006 and Tickles kicking in 2008 for Wembley.

Admit it with your fantastic stadium and supporter base you should be way way way further ahead of us than that. Hence you have played some good Trinity sides in SL, either that or most Hull teams in SL have been gash because we are not that lucky. However so far this season this team hasn't proved to be one of the good ones which is why I'm quite shocked for you.

You know I'm right you'll feel so much better if you admit it

2 CCup runners up...

I've tried to forget last year too