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Quote: easthull fc fan "But hes not good enough to play..why isnt AP asking radders to play him if hes paying him a wage? because hes not good enough..in 2 & a bit seasons at wests 1st grade he played 9 times..hardly a glittering career is it? he came because of Gentle saying hes the next best thing.. & as we needed a SH..AP just signed him blindfolded!! says it all for miller dosent it as we tried to sign Gale. & i never said he cant have an opinion..i just told him Miller is no good for our team.'"

I thought Miller hade something last season to kick on this season but for whatever reason he has not had a chance. Maybe he does not fit in Radders plans. As it is he either gives Miller a chance instead of him stuck on the sidelines or Hull release him. His situation is not doing anyone any good and it needs sorting quick.

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Miller was a 21 year old kid who came across half the world mid season to play the hardest position on the field. In a down in confidence team, behind a small getting spanked every week pack, with a disinterested half back partner!
Far far to early to right him off for me, and since he has history with rankin I'd like to see him have a run or 2.
When we have a full pack a backline up of
1 shaul
2 lineham
3 crooks
4 yeaman
5 binman
6 rankin
7 Miller
Looks okay to me, has potent try scoring ability, line breaking ability, speed power size and elusiveness. The big question is again can the halves prompt probe and kick sufficiently. Worth finding out with them though instead of using a top class 9 at scrum half!

Also on a side note Miller in this corresponding fixture last year was man of the match

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Miller was a 21 year old kid who came across half the world mid season to play the hardest position on the field. In a down in confidence team, behind a small getting spanked every week pack, with a disinterested half back partner!
Far far to early to right him off for me, and since he has history with rankin I'd like to see him have a run or 2.
When we have a full pack a backline up of
1 shaul
2 lineham
3 crooks
4 yeaman
5 binman
6 rankin
7 Miller
Looks okay to me, has potent try scoring ability, line breaking ability, speed power size and elusiveness. The big question is again can the halves prompt probe and kick sufficiently. Worth finding out with them though instead of using a top class 9 at scrum half!

Also on a side note Miller in this corresponding fixture last year was man of the match'"
Nice to see someone else with a bit of common sense.

I like that back line, but I'd put Horne at 6, Rankin to FB and leave Shaul out.

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So now our coaching staff have no common sense.

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Quote: easthull fc fan "So now our coaching staff have no common sense.'"

No, just you.

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Quote: *1865* "No, just you.'"

Why? I don't leave miller out of the team..I just told you the reason why..you just don't like it because you rate him..shame wests didn't or our coaching staff.

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Why cant people get it into their thick heads - Miller is ! He maybe does one or two good things a game if hes lucky then the rest of the time gets steam rollered or runs round like a headless chicken! Another example of Gentle thinking he can polish a turd when he clearly coudnt.

I hope Miller does get the message and goes elsewhere as im sure there miles better around than him and Radford obviously thinks the same

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Quote: easthull fc fan "Why? I don't leave miller out of the team..I just told you the reason why..you just don't like it because you rate him..shame wests didn't or our coaching staff.'"

So the reason he isn't getting picked is because he can't defend? If that's the case then I'd like to ask you a few further questions. Firstly, if that's the requirements for a spot, then how come Ben Crooks is getting a game? Secondly, if he's that bad why was our defence better last year when he was in the team?

Fact of the matter is Horne & Heremaia in the halves doesn't work against the better teams (or most teams for that matter), what's that saying about doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

Doesn't matter what I ask though does it? Because you won't have an answer and will just go down the childish remark route. Reckon Seb does more for my argument anyway! icon_biggrin.gif

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Surely it's props we're short of and it's that which is dictating changes to the squad. Radford clearly believes that Miller is the fourth best option of the 4 players that can play halfback at the club. Why would losing two more props have any effect on that view?

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Quote: ChrisH "Surely it's props we're short of and it's that which is dictating changes to the squad. Radford clearly believes that Miller is the fourth best option of the 4 players that can play halfback at the club. Why would losing two more props have any effect on that view?'"

It doesn't. However against Castleford the combination in the halves, as proven before didn't work against a well organised defence. I'm not saying Miller will definitely be any better but it's worth a shot. Radford was pretty quick to bin Rankin out of the halves.

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Quote: *1865* "It doesn't. However against Castleford the combination in the halves, as proven before didn't work against a well organised defence. I'm not saying Miller will definitely be any better but it's worth a shot. Radford was pretty quick to bin Rankin out of the halves.'"

Or just decided that the pairing he chose was right for the game in question?

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Quote: *1865* "So the reason he isn't getting picked is because he can't defend? If that's the case then I'd like to ask you a few further questions. Firstly, if that's the requirements for a spot, then how come Ben Crooks is getting a game? Secondly, if he's that bad why was our defence better last year when he was in the team?

Fact of the matter is Horne & Heremaia in the halves doesn't work against the better teams (or most teams for that matter), what's that saying about doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

Doesn't matter what I ask though does it? Because you won't have an answer and will just go down the childish remark route. Reckon Seb does more for my argument anyway! Hes not that good in attack either, ben crooks misses tackles as all players miss tackles, like i have said before..big difference in missing a tackle when fatigued or out smarted or bumped off, to jumping out the way! seb said everything ive said & everything the coaching staff see every day...not my fault i speak the truth about certain players..& crooks has been dropped for bad performances. We focused more on defence last year so thats probably why. horne & azza are not the best halves in SL but they are the best of our bunch.

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Quote: ChrisH "Surely it's props we're short of and it's that which is dictating changes to the squad. Radford clearly believes that Miller is the fourth best option of the 4 players that can play halfback at the club. Why would losing two more props have any effect on that view?'"


Fair comment. There is merit in the argument that the Head Coach has access to training/stats that us on here picking the team do not. I would initially have played Miller this week but then subsequently knowing the forward situation I probably wouldn't have done as Radford hasn't. Think Radford needs to say something good about Miller sooner rather than later or play him otherwise it becomes unsettling for the player. In general scoring points isn't a concern so far like it has been in the past and this week the half back argument isn't the focus IMO.

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Quote: Staffs FC "Fair comment. There is merit in the argument that the Head Coach has access to training/stats that us on here picking the team do not. I would initially have played Miller this week but then subsequently knowing the forward situation I probably wouldn't have done as Radford hasn't. Think Radford needs to say something good about Miller sooner rather than later or play him otherwise it becomes unsettling for the player. In general scoring points isn't a concern so far like it has been in the past and this week the half back argument isn't the focus IMO.'"

That I can accept as a credible reason, I don't agree with it, but it's fair enough. But I can't accept that the kid is 'gash'.

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Quote: *1865* "That I can accept as a credible reason, I don't agree with it, but it's fair enough. But I can't accept that the kid is 'gash'.'"


We haven't seen enough of him to know one way or the other. There is a question mark over him defensively however that shouldn't be used as a major reason for not playing him.

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