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Quote: meatpaste "satisfied?'"
No.

Totally and unequivocally uninterested ? Most definitely.

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Quote: Dave K. "I was reading a Gary Schofield article yesterday about Andrew Johns, he works as a freelance halfback coach in the NRL. I think this is what Miller and other young halfbacks at our club could do with, their must be someone who has retired from the game who could do some work with our halfbacks, someone like Lee Briers would be perfect.'"
Or Gary Schofield.
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Miller has promise and that's about as far as it goes.
Never seen Rankin play so wont pass judgement.
Horne experienced but unlikely to stay injury free.
If we finish 9th I'd view that as decent season.

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Quote: GEvans75 "
If we finish 9th I'd view that as decent season.'"


No you wouldn't, you'd be on here moaning.

Personally I think anything less than 6th is a poor season

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "No you wouldn't, you'd be on here moaning.

Personally I think anything less than 6th is a poor season'"



Poor season coming up then. eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "No you wouldn't, you'd be on here moaning.

Personally I think anything less than 6th is a poor season'"



Probably. I actually think we'll finish 10th but I'm feeling in a positive mood today.

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Quote: Dave K. "I was reading a Gary Schofield article yesterday about Andrew Johns, he works as a freelance halfback coach in the NRL. I think this is what Miller and other young halfbacks at our club could do with, their must be someone who has retired from the game who could do some work with our halfbacks, someone like Lee Briers would be perfect.'"


He did, stopped doing it in 2012. He works with just Manly now.

Still a good idea though, I always thought it suited Long.

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Quote: hullbg "I would put Miller on a similar level to Moa when we signed them. Like you say i could understand the criticism if he was a high profile player with years of experience...'"


I agree with the comparison, however Moa was a project who was signed as a fringe player on a fringe player's salary.

Miller is also a project, unfortunately he has been signed as first choice scrum half on a relatively high salary.

Is it wise to sign a project on a high salary to play in the most pivotal position in the team?

The answer is embarressingly obvious and illustrates why we are not threatening the top 4 despite being a big club paying up to full salary cap.

Just my view but I have not seen enough to suggest that Miller will make the grade. Really hope to be proved wrong.

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I find it funny that many on here say give Miller a chance yet nobody gave Danny Nicklas one even though I cannot see much of a difference in quality between the two players. I constantly here that peoples first choice half backs should be Rankin and Miller too when Miller was the epitomy of average last season and a turnstile in defence and Rankin has played just one trial game. For me the first half backs name on the team sheet (injury permitting) should be Horne with Miller/Rankin as his partner. To go into the season saying our first choice half backs should be two kid second grade aussies just epitomises the complete lack of knowledge most on here seem to possess

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Quote: johnstevensfc "I find it funny that many on here say give Miller a chance yet nobody gave Danny Nicklas one even though I cannot see much of a difference in quality between the two players. I constantly here that peoples first choice half backs should be Rankin and Miller too when Miller was the epitomy of average last season and a turnstile in defence and Rankin has played just one trial game. For me the first half backs name on the team sheet (injury permitting) should be Horne with Miller/Rankin as his partner. To go into the season saying our first choice half backs should be two kid second grade aussies just epitomises the complete lack of knowledge most on here seem to possess'"
...but you're still picking one of them?

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Quote: johnstevensfc "I find it funny that many on here say give Miller a chance yet nobody gave Danny Nicklas one even though I cannot see much of a difference in quality between the two players. I constantly here that peoples first choice half backs should be Rankin and Miller too when Miller was the epitomy of average last season and a turnstile in defence and Rankin has played just one trial game. For me the first half backs name on the team sheet (injury permitting) should be Horne with Miller/Rankin as his partner. To go into the season saying our first choice half backs should be two kid second grade aussies just epitomises the complete lack of knowledge most on here seem to possess'"

Maybe Miller's getting a chance because he doesn't have a bad attitude? Nicklas however was a complete tool, and he was .

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Quote: johnstevensfc "I find it funny that many on here say give Miller a chance yet nobody gave Danny Nicklas one even though I cannot see much of a difference in quality between the two players. I constantly here that peoples first choice half backs should be Rankin and Miller too when Miller was the epitomy of average last season and a turnstile in defence and Rankin has played just one trial game. For me the first half backs name on the team sheet (injury permitting) should be Horne with Miller/Rankin as his partner. To go into the season saying our first choice half backs should be two kid second grade aussies just epitomises the complete lack of knowledge most on here seem to possess'"


Miller in the Castleford widnes home Huddersfield home games particularly showed plenty for me. Pace footwork delayed passes etc. More than Nicklas did in his games. Added to which he had no pace at all and a rubbish attitude it would seem
Our decision to release would seem a bad 1 if he was at another superleague team but he isn't.

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Quote: handbrake "I agree with the comparison, however Moa was a project who was signed as a fringe player on a fringe player's salary.

Miller is also a project, unfortunately he has been signed as first choice scrum half on a relatively high salary.

Is it wise to sign a project on a high salary to play in the most pivotal position in the team?
'"

How many accounts does Tony Sutton have on here FFS?

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Quote: Chris28 "How many accounts does Tony Sutton have on here FFS?'"


You don't need to be Tony Sutton to have a ball park idea.

Players, ex-players will have an idea for example, while most people could hazard an educated guess.

Personally I'd be suprised if Miller was on less than 100K given the NRL market and our circumstances.

You might think he is on much less or it's none of our business and that's fine, however I think it's very relevant when you look at why we continue to struggle at half back and don't have a top 4 team when we are a big, long-established SL club spending to full cap.

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Quote: handbrake "You might think he is on much less or it's none of our business and that's fine, however I think it's very relevant when you look at why we continue to struggle at half back and don't have a top 4 team when we are a big, long-established SL club spending to full cap.'"

It's only relevant if you can find a top class proven half back who is willing to join the club on the same salary as Miller. There aren't any.

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