And what if a replacement succeeds?

Wane is still living off the Mcguire influence.

I say the same thing every time our coach supposedly looses the dressing room, tell the players to get on with it or they are out the door. It's not upto the players to decide who the coach should be it's there job to implement whatever game plan the coach comes up with.

This.

IMO.

Our problems stem from never employing,a proven Head Coach

If we'd have solid playing structures in place,the Head Coach leaves,then the Assistant continues with the the same style. EG Anderson & Wane.

We've never been in this situation,Kear left no attack structure in place,then Agar left, again no attack structure.

Wigan tried to sign Bellamy, he suggested they go for Maguire, they trusted his judgement, it was a gamble, luckily it worked.

Wests Tigers play off the cuff RL,mainly relying on Marshall, as their is no structure,they will be no consistency,they will be either brilliant or poor. - sound familiar?

Where do we go from here? Stick with Gentle? - if we did, I cant see anything changing, if he cant gel a team together after 2 seasons,when he is going to do it? - Personally I cant see it.

Options, I'd try to get a guy who has/can gel a team together, like Brian Smith, maybe he doesnt need the hassle, or headhunt a coach who is proven.

If no experienced coach, do a Wigan, ask Bellamy for a recommendation, maybe another unknown from the Storm stable.

Well that's wonderful. On the evidence of the last few years very unlikely, which is why I believe PG should be given more time.

Only took Brown & Maguire 3 months, at Hudds & Wigan ,to see a marked difference in their team ethic,in attack & defence.they saw their basic core skills were not good enough & improved them.

I,d say Peter Sharp succeeded to some extent He took us on a long unbeaten run and got us to a gf, although one of his failings was keeping Agar and not bringing in his own man.

Did Gentle get a choice who his assistants were when he came in or was he just told that they'd be Radford & Hay? Not saying he never or that it would make things better just honestly can't remember reading anything about it.

It says in Lee Radfords profile in the 2013 guide that he accepted the job to be Peter Gentles assistant so I assume it was the same for Andy Hay

good point.

If that's true then it alone is enough to rule him out of the Head Coach's job IMO.

Sadly I am in agreement.

I agree that Wane is reaping rewards for what McGuire did, but he's not lost the dressing room as he? He demands perfection, and usually gets near it. When on song, Wigan are the most well drilled team in my opinion, and Shaun Wane has to take a lot of credit for that. Every one of those players knows their job, and they do as asked. If they don't, he tells them and he usually gets a response - He's said this in many post match interview.

I'd much rather take the wrath of Gentle than Wane, after a loss. Gentle comes across to me a bit soft and wet and I just don't think he gets any of the players respect, because quite frankly he doesn't deserve it. Given the fact he cannot coach offence, and cannot create a ruthless edge within his team, we'll all be having this discussion at the end of the 2014 season. I hope I have to eat some humble pie, but I just don't think he is up to it.

Come on then, which players and which pubs.

If you and these two publicans are telling the truth there's nothing stopping you naming them.

At least gentle's signing of jordan thompson will pacify the natives !!