Does anyone remember a young 17 year old playing for Wigan in the 1985 Classic. he played v FC and FC had some of the greatest names in RL at the time. How did he get on in the game and how inexperienced was he ?

Shaul is 21 Edwards was 17

it's a big dilemma - Horne is not a fullback but Shaul is, so my preference would be to put Horne at 7 not 1.

Miller misses out for me - Horne was turning games before he got injured and Miller is still finding his feet. Horne is the better player of the two - Miller is still learning his trade. Let's have someone who knows where his feet are and has played in Challenge Cup finals before. We need experience for this occasion. If McDonnell was fit he would have been picked instead of Shaul (who has done nothing wrong) because of his experience in that position and the fact he's a better player.

I wouldn't like to have to make the choice and I'd still be glad to have Miller at 7 and Shaul at 1.

TBH, if this game was not at Wembley then playing Horne in place of Miller or Shaul would not be too much of a problem. But this Wembley, this pitch finds out any player that isn't 100%, and after three months he can't be that, no amount of training brings you to the level of match fitness that this game and this pitch requires. But that's just my opinion, and I think Shaulnand Miller have earned their right to be there

Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.

Sorry, he was told Wednesday.
Lineham didn't go down with the team, the lad is so down, feel for the kid.

Quote: Bal "Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.'" Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549

Quote: Bal "Heavy rain now forecast all day. We need players with good ball control.'" Just watched the live forecast on BBC news and it could be torrential at times, heavy rain starts from 11pm tonight and does not stop till well after the game Shaul not been tested under the high ball in super league will this favour selection of Horne at FB? Dissapointed that the weather now looks like it could be so bad, could be a poor spectacle with team making least mistakes winning, (won't give a flying one if we win). Another "Water Splash" final? www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2634549

Wasn't Edwards 18, playing in his 2nd Challenge Cup final, and either already or very soon to be a GB international?

We don't really tend to kick to him anymore anyway, not sure if the leg injury he picked up in the '10 grand final effects his aerial ability, it certainly affects his speed!

Yes, he played at FB against Widnes in 1984

Oloughlin playing for them , but no we're near 100% fit . Taylor on the bench . Shame that because if Taylor wasn't picked he didn't want to play for them again . Keeping oloughlin quiet will go along way in us winning in my eyes , and helps us with him not been fully fit .

That's weird, weren't you telling us you had inside knowledge that Lockers wasn't playing less than a week ago. There's no way Taylor was ever not getting picked with the form he's in, surely he knew that better than anyone

I said he was doubtful as he's injured , and he's playing carrying the injury hence the reason I said he's not 100% fit . Not inside info , I said who the info was from . Bonus in my eyes as I believe he's your most important player . Scot believes he should be in the team , that's why he said he didn't want to play for you again if not picked , as he's one of your form props and as been in and out for weeks .

Just goes to prove what people know on here...Lineham is fit and playing.....well,you know bugger all...i knew about Ben Crooks after the semi but didnt post anything.