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| Quote: carl_spackler "Which means what? About as much meaning as you read into international selection, if not less.'"
All it means is that fans of other teams don't see him as much of a threat.
Take a look at the amount of marking Briscoe gets. Teams can afford to do this because they know that the bloke inside him isn't all that dangerous.
Quote: carl_spackler "It's as I said earlier, people not judging on a sliding scale and realising that whilst Yeaman isn't world class, he's still one of the best about. This country is severely lacking in quality centres.'"
I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not judging him on any kind of scale whatsoever. I've formed an opinion on how good I think he is in the areas I believe a top quality centre should have, and what he brings to the team.
Quote: carl_spackler "Yeaman is still amongst the best centres SL has to offer for the time being. Whether that is more of an indictment of SL or a measure of Yeaman's ability is besides the point.'"
He might be one of the better [iEnglish[/i centres in SL. And that is indeed an indictment of the quality of centres in the English game at the moment. But that's somewhat beside the point. Being the best of a bad lot doesn't impress me too much, and just at the moment he's not even that IMO.
I like Yeaman. He's a great lad, works hard, is as loyal as you like, and almost always gives 100% on the pitch. You never get even a hint that he's anything other than totally professional on and off the field either. I just don't think he's a terribly good centre.
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| Yeaman is our top centre but given our other two are rookies then its too be expected. Still feel he's had a poor start to the season
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| Strong defender, great hole runner, not a good wingers centre. Not sure why this part of his game hasn't really developed. Always though Yeaman, Briscoe & Manu scored tries despite playing together, not because of. Talking to one of the development guys at Cas a couple of seasons back, he said "Who is the strongest player in SL?" was always one of the 1st questions the kids asked & Yeaman was the answer most of the Cas player gave.
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| Yeaman is going through one of those patches all players have. He has never been a wingers dream centre partner when it comes to scoring tries but I`ll bet you you`ll never find a better defensive centre in SL at the moment.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "rlConfirmed - out for six weeksrl'"
Thats a shame for the Derby. he hates us and vice versa. Game just lost a bit of fizz.
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| Big player for FC on derby day, whatever his form he often turns up and scores a try
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| so who replaces yeamo? are both ben crooks and jason crookes still injured? do we play whiting at centre?
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| Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "Some of this thread is absolute cack.
Yeaman has a try return of 1every other game over a ten yr period.
Constantly leaves attackers crumpled on the ground, often winning us the ball back.
Runs the best lines of any centre playing when on form n team clicking.
Biggest weakness is getting his wing away, and that's been blown out of all proportion, Briscoe n Raynor have hell of a lot of tries from playing outside him.
Certainly on his day on of the better centres, and an asset due to his attitude.
Like has been said people hoping injury is true is ridiculous. Especially coming into Easter. Thought crooks got well looked after against Warrington. He come across ok on telly but there I noticed how much he was looked after by westy whiting n later Galea. We can't invest that much effort into one player constantly, probably the reason he isn't a straight starting choice. So we'll have to hope he comes good in yeamans absence starting against a huge powerfull hudd team!'"
The class half empty (or realistic ) opinion would say he jumps out for the line too often, missing his man and leaves his winger hoplessly exposed. His passing is neither accurate or well timed. I cannot recall any clean break he as made by busting a tackle.
To suggest he runs the best lines of any centre playing is fantacy. Martin Gleeson, on one leg runs letter lines, Ryan Atkins runs better lines.
Raynor and Briscoe would have 50% more tries if they had a centre who was good enough to put his wing away. Most of Briscoes tries are either self made breaks or from kicks.
Typical example of a "local Lad" player. Not bad by any means, but no where near as good as some would like to beleive. His principal contribution to teh team is that he is reliable in defence (when not jumping the line), he is as strong as an Ox and he will never give up.
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| Against Hudds he'll be missed as he is quite a decent defender, sadly attack wise he's average.
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| Good lad Yeamo - FC through and through and well deserves his testimonial. Decent club centre with decent defence but by no means impermeable as he misses a few as well as making the big hits - Turner did him like a kipper the other week. Plays above his size with a big heart and dangerous near the line but does put down a lot of 'bump' balls in that area. Lacks ball playing skill. Like I say decent with a decent try scoring record but not in the 'class' category. Will miss his black and white passion in the derby.
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| Quote: Carlotti "But why keep go to a centre who is average,why haven't successive coaches got rid,they must know nothing about rugby.'"
they don't keep going to him look at this season and how many tries we have scored down the right because at the moment the left edge is barring briscoe who keeps trying to make his own tries because he does not see the ball he keeps coming inside a hell of a lot more because if he does not see the ball he wont score tries which will resort in been down the pecking order for the england team something he wont want to happen
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Some of this thread is absolute cack.
Yeaman has a try return of 1every other game over a ten yr period.
Constantly leaves attackers crumpled on the ground, often winning us the ball back.
Runs the best lines of any centre playing when on form n team clicking.
Biggest weakness is getting his wing away, and that's been blown out of all proportion, Briscoe n Raynor have hell of a lot of tries from playing outside him.
Certainly on his day on of the better centres, and an asset due to his attitude.
Like has been said people hoping injury is true is ridiculous. Especially coming into Easter. Thought crooks got well looked after against Warrington. He come across ok on telly but there I noticed how much he was looked after by westy whiting n later Galea. We can't invest that much effort into one player constantly, probably the reason he isn't a straight starting choice. So we'll have to hope he comes good in yeamans absence starting against a huge powerfull hudd team!'"
The class half empty (or realistic ) opinion would say he jumps out for the line too often, missing his man and leaves his winger hoplessly exposed. His passing is neither accurate or well timed. I cannot recall any clean break he as made by busting a tackle.
To suggest he runs the best lines of any centre playing is fantacy. Martin Gleeson, on one leg runs letter lines, Ryan Atkins runs better lines.
Raynor and Briscoe would have 50% more tries if they had a centre who was good enough to put his wing away. Most of Briscoes tries are either self made breaks or from kicks.
Typical example of a "local Lad" player. Not bad by any means, but no where near as good as some would like to beleive. His principal contribution to teh team is that he is reliable in defence (when not jumping the line), he is as strong as an Ox and he will never give up.'"
Gleeson runs decent lines more about foot work though. Atkins mostly runs decent lines due to the play around him, yeaman would be truly prolific if he'd spent yrs at Leeds saints Wigan or wire.!
Jumping the line very very very rarely costs us tries. Because of his understanding with his winger to cover him. When 1st playing with Briscoe it did but they worked it out. Plenty of times he's smashed the attacker, n either injured them, forced error or turned defence into attack.
With a try scoring record like Kirks it's fair to say he'd be in the reckoning of a defender hence the space for Briscoe to score a fair number of his tries.
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| rlHe's looked more like a forward as he's got older as well.rl
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| Quote: Staffs FC "rlHe's looked more like a forward as he's got older as well.rl'"
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| Quote: Kosh "All it means is that fans of other teams don't see him as much of a threat.'"
Firstly, it says that a few don't seem to. 1 thread on a message board is hardly going to be a thorough representation of a sport's fanbase. Secondly, I don't see any particular reasons to accept them as right.
Quote: Kosh "Take a look at the amount of marking Briscoe gets. Teams can afford to do this because they know that the bloke inside him isn't all that dangerous.'"
Or it's possible that teams can't afford to leave Briscoe 1-on-1, because he's definitely one of the best SL has to offer in his position.
Quote: Kosh "I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not judging him on any kind of scale whatsoever. I've formed an opinion on how good I think he is in the areas I believe a top quality centre should have, and what he brings to the team.'"
Which is fair enough, but bear in mind I'm not saying he is a top quality centre. All I'm saying is that he is a very good centre, and there aren't really many about who are better all round. Because of that, I don't see why he is a player people identify as one to replace if we as a team are to get any better, because the majority of options would be worse.
Quote: Kosh "He might be one of the better [iEnglish[/i centres in SL. And that is indeed an indictment of the quality of centres in the English game at the moment. But that's somewhat beside the point. Being the best of a bad lot doesn't impress me too much, and just at the moment he's not even that IMO.'"
SL doesn't actually have many non-english centres of genuine quality any more. Moon, Lulia, Millard, that's about it. So being one of the better english centres still makes him one the better SL centres.
And I'm not saying you should be impressed by that. As in my previous comment I'm simply saying that as one of the best about, I don't see the sense in calls to get rid, unless by some miracle we could get hold of one of the half dozen or so who would be an improvement. (I'm not saying those calls came from you, BTW.)
Quote: Kosh "I like Yeaman. He's a great lad, works hard, is as loyal as you like, and almost always gives 100% on the pitch. You never get even a hint that he's anything other than totally professional on and off the field either. I just don't think he's a terribly good centre.'"
Roughly how many better would you say there are in SL?
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