I think u can. Jake is spot on, if people cant see that then they are really deluding themselves.

what team will we see against bradford?gentle says the players can`t take for granted they will be an automatic first choice,they have to fight for the right to be first choice.

We look at our best from a attacking perspective when we offload the ball but our forwards were not interested in that last night which I found disappointing.

I said when Gentle came in it would take two years to sort the mess and then start thinking of challenging. Anyone expecting us to compete for trophies this season are deluding themselves. Top 6 minimum and top four at a push.

RLFans - the home of hyperbole.

Sums it up for me.Manu and Moa not replaced. No class No 7 . Galea, McDonnell, Arundel and Crookes average at best.

Heremaia back in the halfs maybe?

Did you really expect to go to the champions on the first game of the year with a newish team and no expect to be well beaten?

Get a grip.

Out fought out played you get used to it And I for one will still be going next Friday for more of the same or a win God I love being a Hull fan

God is the season over already?

First of all lets look at the positives.

McDonnell looks a handful, I reckon he will go well when the pitches firm up.
Crookes impressed me, I have called for Lineham to be picked but I thought Crookes was probably our best player last night.
Pitts and Green (and to a lesser extent Johnson) put in real good shows, and I believe they will only get better in better conditions. Green in particular could be a real star.
Leeds had all the possession and field position, but in 60 minutes all they had to show for it was one gift under the posts. Ultimately our errors and decision making cost us and all that pressure told. Leeds were also much better than I expected this early in the season, on that evidence not many will go there and get anything.
Watts and Tickle should soon be available and will really bolster a pack that is just too lightweight. Especially in heavy conditions.

On the downside.

Seymour and Holdsworth just never got anything going at all. Ok they have played very little together but I expected to see a bit of promise at least.
Arundel missed some very poor one on one's, his attempt on Hall in the build up to their first try was pathetic. However he hasn't played in a long time and I am willing to give benefit of the doubt.
Galea was worse than useless, unfit, lots of errors, too slow and you could write down his positive contributions on a stamp with a paint roller. Sure he's a good pro and he is a good influence on the kids but he looks finished on the field. If Tickle isn't available next week I would be going with Whiting and Westerman in the second row, Pitts at loose and Bowden on the bench.

well said mr zuccini,agree with all of that, to many on here are quick to slag of the players at the first hurdle,i honestly dont know why sum follow fc

I'm judging the team on the players in it, not how we played last night. We don't have the players to comepete with the top 4 teams

Well said.

Thought you were leaving?