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| Quote: fc baldy "It is isnt it........some see him tackling like a trojan in 1st half...not missing any at all then leeds targeting a tiring player,who,when he got the ball from another slow and awful Houghton pass had sod all to do with it as leeds was in his face.'"
Yeah some think he's actually got some ability when in fact he hasn't got any.
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| Quote: Smiggs "Yeah some think he's actually got some ability when in fact he hasn't got any.'"
Well he is here so think we should back him than slag him off.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Well he is here so think we should back him than slag him off.'"
I'm with Adam Pearson on this one.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Well he is here so think we should back him than slag him off.'"
Exactly! We have the players now, what's going to help the team more?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "You do know Seymour is number 7, right?
Would love to see his stats for that game. Knock ons, penalties conceded, forward passes, tackles, missed tackles, missed passes, kicks. Is there anywhere you can read these? They aren't on the SL website.'"
He was no worse than others for those things....the forward pass he did was taking the man on and trying to slip it round him....couple of knock ons due to 1 being a hospital pass....he is highlighted more in the missed tackles as they led to trys...........he was no worse in those stats than any other...Galea cost us 2 trys
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| Quote: Smiggs "I'm with Adam Pearson on this one.
Aye...did well getting us our new 7 didnt he....oh hang on.
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| Quote: fc baldy "He was no worse than others for those things....the forward pass he did was taking the man on and trying to slip it round him....couple of knock ons due to 1 being a hospital pass....he is highlighted more in the missed tackles as they led to trys...........he was no worse in those stats than any other...Galea cost us 2 trys'"
I agree Galea was poor, very poor in fact. I actually watched him during the pre-match warm up (btw how long did we warm up for? seemed bloody ages, too long imo) and he looked shattered by the time it was over. However when everyone is fit, hopefully, I expect him to be benched and used sparingly. Seymour on the other hand is our seven and as such is expected to get us around the park. Do you honestly believe he is capable of doing that? because I haven't got any confidence in him whatsoever.
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| Quote: Smiggs "I agree Galea was poor, very poor in fact. I actually watched him during the pre-match warm up (btw how long did we warm up for? seemed bloody ages, too long imo) and he looked shattered by the time it was over. However when everyone is fit, hopefully, I expect him to be benched and used sparingly. Seymour on the other hand is our seven and as such is expected to get us around the park. Do you honestly believe he is capable of doing that? because I haven't got any confidence in him whatsoever.'"
I do yes...he proved it last season...ok not as much as he should have but V Sts at home he was superb and a lot of last season he had at least 6/7 half back partners and has played with Holdsworth for 30mins in the friendly....Think PG was set on Heremia/Holdsworth and when that didnt work he had to go to Seymour/Holdsworth but only as last resort and PG has to take a lot of the blame for this...they should have played 80mins in 1 match at least....End of the day,Heremia at 7 doesnt work and please god,do not let horne back in.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Well he is here so think we should back him than slag him off.'"
Quote: fc baldy "I'm with Adam Pearson on this one.
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| After watching the game back from last night I'm just wanna hit back at a few who really don't understand rugby is a game of momentum.
Firstly if anyone thinks Seymour was poor last night wants shooting. The guy was a trojan in defence and showed some FC defenders leaving a lot to be desired. The shear fact he was poor offensively was because he Leeds forwards dominated for large parts of the game. Sort the forwards out and get them winning individual battles then you'll see Seyour and Holdworth flourish. If they don't I'll happily hold my hand and say I was wrong.
Secondly we matched the champions quite well for the best part of an hour, with in my opinion a good performance from young Jason Crookes. Leeds were always going to attack our right hand side. It's relatively small in Crookes, Arundel and Seymour defending. With them finding Ellis was out too only fuelled their game plan.
Thirdly early on in the second half, if things had gone a little differently and the gods were looking down on us, you'd all be calling for Seymour to get man of the match with a try he missed by a matter of inches and a grubber kick to Yeaman that bounced too high at the vital time. This would probably put us 6-18 up against the champions away on the first game of the season with a new team structure. Although my thoughts on this point are hypothetical , they are completely rational and anyone who knows and follows and possibly played RL , knows this could have quite easily have happened , spirit and belief in this new set of players would have been up( after it been damaged with the injury to their captain in the warm up ) then who knows what might have happened.
But the fact is, it didn't happen for us. I'm not bothered. You get up, you dust yourself down and you carry on. Things will be learnt juking the week and we'll be better for it.
It's unfortunate Leeds went on to get a shoreline like they did, and that for me is the ONLY down side to this defeat.
Sorry if you don't agree but if you do your probably the type that dwells on the negative. This I'm afraid is not me, and I'm looking forward to a much improved turn out against Bulls next week.
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| Quote: Smiggs "You do realise he's played more than once for us. I've made my mind up on him after watching him for a season, he's not very good. Seems some are happy with his inability to do most things any decent scrum half find second nature. There's always a reason for his average performances fwds fault/carrying an injury/unfamiliar partner. However the common factor is him.'"
At least you admit you've already made your mind up about him.
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