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| IMo Horne has been one of our better players this season. We have just used him incorrectly as normal. If he played in the role what he is meant to, he is still a good player. Peope seem too quick to knock Horne, and I know you cannot have sentiment. But I think that people are taking that sentiment and twisting it.
IMO one of our top 5/6 performers this season.
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| Quote: hull smallears "IMo Horne has been one of our better players this season. We have just used him incorrectly as normal. If he played in the role what he is meant to, he is still a good player. Peope seem too quick to knock Horne, and I know you cannot have sentiment. But I think that people are taking that sentiment and twisting it.
IMO one of our top 5/6 performers this season.'"
to inconsistent this season in patches hes been pretty good where you could say yeh hes getting back to his best but been very awfull at times, my personal opinon is we should play ellis at 7 and let him play the way he does for leigh with seymour playing of him
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| Quote: hull smallears "IMo Horne has been one of our better players this season. We have just used him incorrectly as normal. If he played in the role what he is meant to, he is still a good player. Peope seem too quick to knock Horne, and I know you cannot have sentiment. But I think that people are taking that sentiment and twisting it.
IMO one of our top 5/6 performers this season.'"
Yep, and he's playing with a double hernia too.
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| I've only seen a few of your games this seen. A few live and a few on Sky. It must be a very dissapointing season for you all. Hopefully, now Agar has gone, you can re-build under new management.
When you played Crusaders a few weeks back, you impressed me. I know Crusaders were poor, but I thought you put on a very good display and similarly at Castleford. Today, I thought you would have put in a good battle, but you were never in the game. I thought Sharp had a good game when he replaced Whiting and I didn't think Turner did too badly either, but apart from that, it was a flat performance. Kicking game was poor and you were constantly turning the ball over. Leeds weren't very good today either, but sadly they didn't need to be.
This is just how I see it. I'm not having a dig at you, as I still thoroughly enjoyed my day and really wanted you to progress to the next round.
I hope next season can be an improvement and will see Hull FC back up there.
Thanks for making us all from Crusaders welcome today
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| Quote: Rock God X "He's played only two positions his entire career.'" I must have dreamt those times I have seen Sinfield playing at 6,7,9 and 13 then.
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| Quote: GouldyCrusader "I've only seen a few of your games this seen. A few live and a few on Sky. It must be a very dissapointing season for you all. Hopefully, now Agar has gone, you can re-build under new management.
When you played Crusaders a few weeks back, you impressed me. I know Crusaders were poor, but I thought you put on a very good display and similarly at Castleford. Today, I thought you would have put in a good battle, but you were never in the game. I thought Sharp had a good game when he replaced Whiting and I didn't think Turner did too badly either, but apart from that, it was a flat performance. Kicking game was poor and you were constantly turning the ball over. Leeds weren't very good today either, but sadly they didn't need to be.
This is just how I see it. I'm not having a dig at you, as I still thoroughly enjoyed my day and really wanted you to progress to the next round.
I hope next season can be an improvement and will see Hull FC back up there.
Thanks for making us all from Crusaders welcome today
your not wrong at all m8 yet another non performance and result under agar against a top team in a big game, same problems such as attacking structure and lack of kicking game which weve had for a few years now in which hes failed to address
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Ribs and shoulder according to Agar. Would need to check with Webb exactly where he assaulted him.'"
Probably his knee then if Dr Agar is diagnosing the injury.
Don't worry about Webb. Leeds have immunity against assaulting opposition players in that corner of the ground. Remember Gary Connolly's swinging stiff arm on Preckie's forehead in the Challenge Cup a few years ago!!!!
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| i exspect dowes ,washy,hamme,phelps,and obst to be leaving ,with 3 going to waky and one to wigan and webster to be going also ,watch the clear out
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| Quote: The Bomber IS Back "
Kevin Sinfield is a UTILITY player, but his best position is a loose man
I don't think you understand the term 'utility' properly. C. Ronaldo, Rooney and Messi can all play in pretty much any position across the midfield or forward lines for their clubs, you wouldn't class them as 'utility' players would you?
The term 'utility player' has some negative connotations because it suggests that the player in question has never been quite good enough to nail down a definitive starting position. Nonetheless, a good utility man can add a lot of value to even the best squads (e.g. the likes of Phil Neville and John O'Shea when they were at Man Utd). While he's been shown up a few times lately on the wing, I can't think of a better utility player in SL than Whiting and he has no place on your list.
Aside from him and Lauaki (who I'd still like to see given a year under a proper coach) I agree with all of your OP. Horne getting a 2 year deal was criminal given his ongoing injury problems for the last five (five!) years and Radford doesn't get a harsh enough ride from the fans IMO, he's a shadow of the player that was winning things at Bradford and the only leadership he's shown over the last couple of years is in making snivelling excuses for his pal Agar.
Since it appears we're now using Wakey as a dumping ground for our deadwood, perhaps we can do them a 'buy two, get one free' deal on the rest of our rubbish?
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| Richard Horne super league apps.
2011 - 25
2010 - 13
2009 - 24
2008 - 3
2007 - 26
Maybe it wouldn't have been so high if he'd have refused to play until he got his injury problems sorted, but he'd have been slagged off for that as well.
Radford will probably be 4th or 5th choice prop next season and by the end of it he may be 6th.
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| Quote: Sheldon "Richard Horne super league apps.
2011 - 25
2010 - 13
2009 - 24
2008 - 3
2007 - 26
Maybe it wouldn't have been so high if he'd have refused to play until he got his injury problems sorted, but he'd have been slagged off for that as well.
Radford will probably be 4th or 5th choice prop next season and by the end of it he may be 6th.'"
I'm not sure what appearances have to do with it? I respect the fact he dragged himself out onto the pitch when he didn't have to, but the point is that Horne isn't good enough anymore, largely due to his ongoing health and injury problems. The club has been more than fair to him and his family in giving him a chance to get back over the last few years but, through no lack of effort, he hasn't managed it. Therefore giving him a two year deal this year was criminal.
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| From the games and footage I've seen Horne has been one of our better players again this season.
We've got a few better players already signed, not to mention coach, with their ball handling and organising ability I expect Horne to shine.
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| Radford HAS to go ! has he gone ? have I missed anything ?
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| Radfords still got another year to run, hopefully Gentle won't play him at 13.
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| Quote: Sheldon "From the games and footage I've seen Horne has been one of our better players again this season.
We've got a few better players already signed, not to mention coach, with their ball handling and organising ability I expect Horne to shine.'"
'One of the better players' in another season of huge underachivement isn't much to write home about though is it? Especially when he plays in one of the most important positions on the park. I've no doubt that next year the vast majority of our players will look a hell of a lot better next year due to the reasons you mention, but for Horne to have any chance of 'shining' he'd have to do something he hasn't managed for 5 years and that is remain fully fit.
The most telling question for me when Horne got his new deal was 'who would have signed him if we hadn't?' The answer is undoubtedly nobody that we aspire to be competing with. I do respect him immensely though and hope he proves me wrong.
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