I believe that any club who made promises like ground improvements last time and have failed to deliver should be booted out

and can I just ask this, IF Barrow had a SL team (or Cumbria in general) who the hell is going to decide they want to live on the side of a hill surrounded by Sheep, or worse, in Carlisle, Workington, Whitehaven or Barrow?

Whilst I agree that a ten team league may be two little and have knock on effects with money, I certainly would not go as far as to saying P & R is not a sustainable model. It can be done over time IMO.

I think getting P & R back in the future is crucial for the sport, the headlines it creates and extra publicity. Plus I know when I travel the country and talk to people about RL they often say they get confused by the no P & R and how teams move up and down from divisions. I know in other countries all over the world this happens but in England in any sport they is always P & R so we definitely need to look at getting it back, if only to interest new people. I will agree though that at the moment it can not be achieved without two full time leagues.

The problem we have though I reckon is the RFL is that obsessed with expanding and getting the international game working that I doubt the above will ever happen.

I agree with you, but whilst Barrow is a very strange place (we have a factory there) there are fantastic places to live within 5 miles. (I admit you would be surrounded by sheep though - Craven park?)

Living in Hull isn't much better.

I'm 50/50 with Barrow or a Cumbria team, I think they is interest there but never to really become a big club. They may never attract 10,000 but I reckon if they were in SL a decent stadium they could double if not triple the current crowds.

If the RFL is prepared to give Crusaders and Quins a chance then Barrow is worth a shot IMO. Plus it would widen SL geographically.