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| Quote: east hull FC fan "What evidence is this then? The club have told us that we aim to spend full cap and have told us that Westerman was paid for using profits. Rumour and speculation are obviously more credible than the spoken word and official statements in your opinion then?'"
I'm not sure what the club telling us that we 'aim' to spend full cap has to do with whether we are actually spending it or not, you do the maths there's no way that we are spending to the cap this year. IIRC the comment about Westerman being paid for out of profits was before Berrigan left so I'm not sure what relevance it has now.
Oh, and when the offical statements are made by Jimmy 'Goebbels' Rule, then yes I think rumour and speculation are often more credible
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| this is just another (poor) rumours thread, people posting opinion and claiming it to be fact.
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| Quote: garry brindley "I'm not sure what the club telling us that we 'aim' to spend full cap has to do with whether we are actually spending it or not, you do the maths there's no way that we are spending to the cap this year. IIRC the comment about Westerman being paid for out of profits was before Berrigan left so I'm not sure what relevance it has now.
Oh, and when the offical statements are made by Jimmy 'Goebbels' Rule, then yes I think rumour and speculation are often more credible
We planned on spending full cap, Berrigan and Tansey have since left. We've brought in Obst and Phelps, while also paying a fee for Obst. I'm not denying there is probably cap space left, just that it won't be anywhere near the 150k reported that Westerman cost. There's also rumours that O'Meleys deal was back loaded, why not believe this one? Doesn't it suit your argument.
The Rule comment is just silly really.
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| Quote: Standee "this is just another (poor) rumours thread, people posting opinion and claiming it to be fact.'"
Yup.
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| many many reasons so ill point to a minor one... using interchanges 2 minutes before half time.... oh and the boring rugby... too many reasons i reckon to actually type out.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Oh, and when the offical statements are made by Jimmy 'Goebbels' Rule, then yes I think rumour and speculation are often more credible
I know you have some sort of personel grudge against Agar but now comparing James Rule to one of the architects of the holocaust may be taking things a little too far dont you think?
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "We planned on spending full cap, Berrigan and Tansey have since left. We've brought in Obst and Phelps, while also paying a fee for Obst. I'm not denying there is probably cap space left, just that it won't be anywhere near the 150k reported that Westerman cost. There's also rumours that O'Meleys deal was back loaded, why not believe this one? Doesn't it suit your argument.
The Rule comment is just silly really.'"
I'm not making any argument mate, it's clear as day to me that we aren't spending anywhere near the cap this year, if you want to toe the official line and say that you think we are then that's fair enough. I just happen to think it's naive to think the board are selflessly re-investing the majority of the profit they make to better the squad.
The Rule comment was tongue in cheek as you well know, although he is the guy that's always saying what a top coach Rich Agar is and how he's definitely the man for the job etc... doesn't exactly help his credibility does it?
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| Quote: Pookie "I know you have some sort of personel grudge against Agar but now comparing James Rule to one of the architects of the holocaust may be taking things a little too far dont you think?'"
Oh he were go . You're boring and you lack debating skills, so it's no fun talking to you. Learn from East Hull FC, I enjoy my jousts with him.
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| Quote: garry brindley "I'm not making any argument mate, it's clear as day to me that we aren't spending anywhere near the cap this year, if you want to toe the official line and say that you think we are then that's fair enough. I just happen to think it's naive to think the board are selflessly re-investing the majority of the profit they make to better the squad.
The Rule comment was tongue in cheek as you well know, although he is the guy that's always saying what a top coach Rich Agar is and how he's definitely the man for the job etc... doesn't exactly help his credibility does it?
I never said that I think we are spending full cap. I said that I don't believe we're under enough for your accusation to be true.
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| Quote: east hull FC fan "I never said that I think we are spending full cap. I said that I don't believe we're under enough for your accusation to be true.'"
Yer you might be right there, maybe we aren't saving enough to finance buying Westerman and Obst without dipping into some of the profits, not to the degree I thought you were implying though. It wasn't really an accusation anyway, the club said Westerman was being bought using profits before Berrigan and Tansey left so I always assumed that claim was null and void now.
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| Quote: garry brindley "Oh he were go
Your "debating skills", of which you seem to have over a rather overemphasised belief in your own, seem to stretch no further than than having a rather over the top grudge against Richard Agar and his "accent" and how "thick" he is and comparing our chief exec to a Nazi. Based on that I will stick to my lack of said skills thanks.
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| Quote: Pookie "Your "debating skills", of which you seem to have over a rather overemphasised belief in your own, seem to stretch no further than than having a rather over the top grudge against Richard Agar and his "accent" and how "thick" he is and comparing our chief exec to a Nazi. Based on that I will stick to my lack of said skills thanks.'"
You mean like last week when you were posting up the SL site penalty stats and using them to claim that our discipline was on a par with Wigan's? You even went so far as to claim that in the 2009 season we had the best discipline in the league. If you're not doing something as foolish as that you're just wittering on about injuries. I own you every time you attempt it mate, it's a waste of time for us both.
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| Quote: garry brindley "You mean like last week when you were posting up the SL site penalty stats and using them to claim that our discipline was on a par with Wigan's? You even went so far as to claim that in the 2009 season we had the best discipline in the league. If you're not doing something as foolish as that you're just wittering on about injuries. I own you every time you attempt it mate, it's a waste of time for us both.'"
Indeed I did claim that in 2009 we had the best discipline (as far as penatlies went) in the league after your statement that under Agar we had no discipline.
rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_club.php?season
As you say a nice bit of "ownership" on your part. But as I said then dont let your rather worrying obsession with Rich Agar get in the way of facts.
And unless you re-write history Agar has had more than his fare share of injuries under his regime. But as I said at the very beginning I would give Agar 8 or 9 games this season to "turn things round" with a full squad. Sadly at the moment I dosent looks like he will. But if and when he goes my thoughts wont be based on his accent or how "thick" he is.
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| Quote: Pookie "Indeed I did claim that in 2009 we had the best discipline (as far as penatlies went) in the league after your statement that under Agar we had no discipline.
rlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_club.php?season
As you say a nice bit of "ownership" on your part. But as I said then dont let your rather worrying obsession with Rich Agar get in the way of facts.
And unless you re-write history Agar has had more than his fare share of injuries under his regime. But as I said at the very beginning I would give Agar 8 or 9 games this season to "turn things round" with a full squad. Sadly at the moment I dosent looks like he will. But if and when he goes my thoughts wont be based on his accent or how "thick" he is.'"
Thanks for saying it again and confirming your stupidity
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| Quote: garry brindley ". I own you every time you attempt it mate, it's a waste of time for us both.'"
your life (vertual one) seems to be surrounded by your wish to "own" everyone...
if you used as much energy supporting the club as you do sitting on your pc in your underpants everyday it would be far more productive you know... i know you think that Kath reads your posts particularly however ............... she doesnt mate!!!
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