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Quote: berrigans bitch "Do I ?

How come I have mentioned league postition and producing/developing players then, maybe you should read the full thread
Yet you repeatedly insist Morgan is over-rated 'cos he's won nothing?

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Quote: Easty "Shaun Briscoe has being massive for Rovers and would without doubt be one of the 1st names on the teamsheet.

Chester was a quality player in Rovers colours and I can't say a bad thing about him some of the things he produced where world class He's still at Rovers and doing a great job coaching.

Cooke could have being awesome for Rovers but Hull fans will always have a sour taste when his name is mentioned. Truth about Cookie is with his performance against Salford in 2007 and then followed by the display against Hull the week after he simply kept us in Super League which is what I'll always remember him for.

Hodgson has gone from an academy player of the year to a Rovers 1st team player how he doesn't appear to be a better player now is madness.

Wheeldon is an average player, when we signed him he was an average player. To think he'll be anything more then average is madness. He'll do a good job but he'll never be outstanding.'"

But you haven't said how they have improved. Briscoe was excellent at Hull, Chester was also a class act at Hull, Cooke won a Challenge cup at Hull and led the team around the pitch, Hodgson was a kid third-in-line for the hooking role and Wheeldon was no worse than he is now. I don't see how Morgan has improved any of them. Admittedly it might be difficult to judge with Hodgson who had plenty of potential but was never going to usurp the two ahead of him unless they got injured.

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Quote: Easty "Now your changing what I've being saying. They take credit in there development. Look back I've never argued that. But in producing or unearthing talent no they don't that comes before the 1st team coach even sets eyes on them.'"
Agar has by far been the most important person in Briscoes development.

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Quote: SirStan "Yet you repeatedly insist Morgan is over-rated 'cos he's won nothing?'"


and has not produced/devloped a player, oh and dropped league positions icon_lol.gif

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Quote: downtheante "But you haven't said how they have improved. Briscoe was excellent at Hull, Chester was also a class act at Hull, Cooke won a Challenge cup at Hull and led the team around the pitch, Hodgson was a kid third-in-line for the hooking role and Wheeldon was no worse than he is now. I don't see how Morgan has improved any of them. Admittedly it might be difficult to judge with Hodgson who had plenty of potential but was never going to usurp the two ahead of him unless they got injured.'"


I never watched them week in week out at Hull FC. I can only comment about there performances at Rovers. Similar to yourself not being able to watch them week in week out and only being able to judge them on how they performed at Hull. and how they now perform in derbies and the odd game on sky.

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Well if the debate is switching to players whom coaches have improved during their tenure, I can certainly offer the following:

Ben Cockayne - rookie at Donny in 2005, now a SL regular
Scott Murrell - academy player at Leeds - SL regular and England train on squad member in 2010
Peter Fox - decent player at Wakey, England international since joining Rovers
Kris Welham - academy player to SL regular
Michael Dobson - great player when he joined, but improved his consisentcy and significantly improved defence.
Ben Fisher - NL standard hooker gone on to top 100 SL appearances, scorer of great play off tries! icon_wink.gif
Liam Watts - Cas academy to nominee for YPOTY in SL last year - shortlist of 3

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Quote: berrigans bitch "and has not produced/devloped a player, oh and dropped league positions
Rovers academy has produced Kris Welham and Morgan has to be applauded in the development of Kris Welham and Liam Watts. We've also got a player of the calibre of Kristian Bell coming through which with game time Morgan can hopefully develop and bring on to be a future 1st team player.

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