You've manged to identify every request on the average Hull fan's wish list after just one viewing!

absoulote spot on

*Father Dougal mode on* You know Ted I think you're onto something *Father Dougal mode off*

Father Jack mode on : "FECK OFF Agar/the Board" (delete as appropriate) (grabs and downs the whiskey)" Father Hackett mode off.

from the robins webiste....qoute " 2008, the average attendance was over 8,500 supporters.This was a significant rise from 3,300 only a couple of seasons earlier. Since then interest has continued to increase and Rovers are now firmly established among the Super League elite"
how fickle are your scum lot...never been a set of supporters..how many was ther last nite vs bradford?
second rate club with second rate fans....

Quite agree as will many Hull fans. Seems the board are more interested in the profit margin than serious investment in the coaching set up which in all fairness will more than likely increase the fanbase and attendance wih better and more consistent performances and being coached into being serious challengers.
With the club doing so well off the field it makes it even more frustrating they are failing on it.

I know what you are saying, it is embarrassing on here at times, because if we win we are brilliant and if we lose its Agar out.

However to say you can accept losing 46-0 at home is also embarrassing in itself. I didn't expect to win on Friday, i'm no fool and I know a Good team when I see one and Wigan are a very good team this term. But its the basics which really annoy me which we are failing to do with a full strength side!

Defence - We must be up there with the worst defence in the league, forgot the points againt for a moment and just focus on our technique. Its all too wrong, we never turn the player over on there backs, thus always giving the opposition a quick play the ball which more then not often leads to us giving a penalty away. We have no clue on how a sliding defence works, watching Tomkins step in on the inside against Lauaki and Turner was painful to watch. This is not to mention the amount of offloads we let oppositions have.

Kick Returns - We are so lazy at our kick returns it is unbelievable, I've watched players all season just laze back to get the ball or even worse they let it bounce because they won't catch it on the full. Again this leads to us starting a set in poor field position, conceding a goal line drop out or at times even conceding tries.

Dummy Runners - More the lack of TBH, players are just standing still when we have the ball. I know the half backs will take alot of blame for this which they should do in a way but it needs the other players to work with them for them to be able to do there job effectively. I really felt for Berrigan on Friday night when he got the ball with a bit of space out wide and they was nobody giving him options, in the end I he just had to take the line on or passed it to Manu and hoped he could make something of it.

Kick and Chase - No enthuasisim in this area for me and the one player (Calderwood) who only did this is out for the season. A kick is only as good as its chase and we simply dont put a chase together, the only hope we have is if its a 40/20 or the other team knock on.

Structure - We are too structured in the things we do, you know everything we are going to do before its actually in motion. Pass ball wide to Tansey and hope for the best, it seems the only move we have going. We also have an annoying habit of taking the ball up standing still.

Backing up the ball carrier - Saints basically won alot of silverware by perfecting this, the amount of times on Friday were they was half chances for people to offload and nobody was backing them up. We are the only team who offload the ball to go backwards.

Overall our enthuasism isn't what it should be, we looked like we had decided we was beat on Friday and we just had to throw some players out just to participate in the game. Its games like these were you really find out how good your coach is in my opinion and just like when you play the lesser teams, you need to have the ability to motivate them. You need to make the young guys believe they can win and no matter what happens go out and give it there all. For me Agar just can't get his players to do this, ok we won the derby but thats two games out of the season, you need to do this every week.

Fridays performance would have never happened under the McRae regime, or even the Peter Sharp one. (I know we took trouncings under these two, I mean more like on our home ground)

I'm sure agar is a good coach but he's just not a head coah for me, not got the personality. He can do as many doubles over Rovers as he can, still won't make him a top class head coach for me.

Asolutly right fella, the talk for long enough has been about the seemingly lack of foresight our board has. We can't do a lot about this until some arab sheik appears from somewhere and buys us out, but your other comments are just what the majority have been saying for long enough.
Since our Grand Final appearance in 2006 we have failed miserably where we should have 'kicked-on'.
We have appointed wrong coaches as a cheap option.
Agar is a good assistant but not ready for a first team job.
The board have made stupid mistakes and just let the club drift, pacifying the fans with so-called big signings to keep us sweet (some have been good however but just sweeteners.)
Your views on our tactics are spot on, we rarely get the balance right taking aside injuries.
The young guns have in general not progressed and Yeaman has been stifled through the lack of no half backs, in my view he is still a class act but not used.
A lack of foresight again with no back-up plan for Long, he was never going to play many games and when he does he plays catch up for match fitness then is injured again. Not his fault, but a fact that has not been confronted prior to the season.
You lot seem to have got the formula right and with the will to do the same we could be right where you are now. Thanks for your comments

If you are Wigan fan I don't see why you should care at all about how strong other clubs are. You say that RL needs a strong Hull FC, well I think RL is doing fine as it is. So it should be just taken for granted that Hull should be a strong side. I think you're being disrespectful to other clubs that are making big strides in the last few years without the help that Hull have had such as the merger and the council funded KC.

As if to prove my point, 'raynor the crab' has just sent me the following via PM