The only reason I favour playing a pivot at 13 for us is down to our lack of craft in the halves (prior to Long arriving). I personally would love to see Washy given a prolonged outing there but under Agar's tenure we need to accept it will be a ball carrier at 13.

Nail on the head...could...

Done nothing since though has he, apart from believe he is bigger than the game itself.

Do you honestly believe that?

If you don't know him personally you have no right to pass judgement! The kid was mis-lead that's it.

Don't like the bloke but doesn't change the fact he was a good player for us and haven't being the same since .Not just down to him but also poor signings but he rarely missed games and set up plenty of tries for us .

I got a bit lost reading this thread but I assume we are talking Paul Cooke - I have been sat in his space (listening on the edges of his conversation) he is a foul mouth person with no respect for any-one but he is a Legend for Hull FC. The winning try at Cardiff says so.

I do know him

Why does it always end up going back to Cooke?

Meeting him on "several" occasions is different to knowing the kid and being friends for 20 odd years. He's a nice lad once you get to know him although he does come across as arrogant to people on the periphary I must admit!

Anyway, we digress. Washy for me if it's not Fitz, hopefully Fitz will stay for another year and Washy can develop more into the mould that Agar wants, he will always have the skill set for 13.

But we now have a pivot at full back, one in the halves and one at hooker. Do we really need 4 pivots and Richard Horne in the side?
It needs to balanced and I think we lose that by playing with a flair player at 13.

My thoughts exactly, when we got rid of Briscoe we started down the route of a 'creative' player at FB starting with Motu and ultimately ending up with Tansey. Each of us has an opinion and for mine I would go with the creative FB and the running LF every time.

agreed

Why not go for a creative full back and a creative 13 to compliment our creative 7, creative 9 and running 6. Tries galore.